Your own weapons

[vapiant]

I've been thinking about the weapons of the counter-strike games (all cs games) and it gets kinda boring playing with the same weapons all the time ....... I don't care if you get my point.

But the cs games doesn't allow you to make extra weapons or other changes like that for your server. So I thought it would be nice, if you were allowed to run a server through csp, but it has changed/extra weapons like 9 pistols or only pistols etc.

Just for the long term list :D

[rcgnz]

yeaNAH

[eSportler]

No, sir. This is seriouz business.

[[EA]]

[Question mark]

[shumped]

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[DooM49]

I was just playing far cry 2 and it has a ton of different variety of weapons, also modern warfare 2 has weapons you can customise, We could potentially incorporate weapons from those games WHEN the time is right.

Far cry 2 weapons:
http://www.farcry2fans.com/news.php?extend.130

Modern Warfare weapons:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar ... ?id=226872 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=226872)

Although interesting, right now id rather this game be 100% cs 1.6 then through majority vote we can decide if we want a new weapon in and what weapon it should be.

[haGisson]

the game is fine with the few weapons it has (money balancing, game balancing, etc.)

i think after csp final is released, there could be added some other weapons (not just those from cs1.6)

[Ipath]

only cs weapons pls

[yuri]

only cs weapons pls
Do you mean CS Online ?


j/k :D

[Chris]

I wanna use a machete! An affordable 1slash kill weapon would be a lot of fun in cs, for publics at first of course :)

[shumped]

I wanna use a machete! An affordable 1slash kill weapon would be a lot of fun in cs, for publics at first of course :)
no.

[Yatta]

i think after csp final is released, there could be added some other weapons (not just those from cs1.6)
Add new weapons? No way. Add customization via legal new skins? I could live with that.

[DooM49]

New weapons is not a bad idea, first get the mod done then hear this out. When cs was developing over the years from 1.0 to 1.6 new weapons were always added take for example from 1.5 to 1.6 the galil and famus was added. Incorporating a new SMG, RIFLE, or even a pistol isnt going to hurt the game as long as its very balanced and well rounded. Its just going to add that spice we need to the game. Of course stupid ideas like rocket launchers and mines should not be put in (for all you 12 year olds)...

[pRopaaNS]

There are a;ready many weapons in cs, but why do you think people keep using ak and m4a1 all the time? How weapon looks isn`t so important, but fact what you can pwn with it... :) There are already 6 pistols, 10 submachine guns, 2 shotguns, 4 snipers and 2 submachine guns with a scope, besides there are weapons with silencer and still people never become bored with ak, m4a1 and awp.

[Chris]

I wanna use a machete! An affordable 1slash kill weapon would be a lot of fun in cs, for publics at first of course :)
no.

yes.

[DooM49]

There are a;ready many weapons in cs, but why do you think people keep using ak and m4a1 all the time? How weapon looks isn`t so important, but fact what you can pwn with it... :) There are already 6 pistols, 10 submachine guns, 2 shotguns, 4 snipers and 2 submachine guns with a scope, besides there are weapons with silencer and still people never become bored with ak, m4a1 and awp.


I dunno how many leagues you've played in but allot of people will buy a galil second round or a famous, as well on force buy rounds. These are new weapons and played a big roll in the game. Incorporating a new weapon will only spice things up and add a new fun part to the game. (of course when the game is complete first)

[pRopaaNS]

Wasn`t they in cs 1.5 already? Well, so you want more weapons for rounds when you have to save money or when you don`t have enough for ak/m4a1? Anyway come to that, weapons in cs exists in reality, so feel free to find more about guns in this world and if you find something what cs could use, then show us... :)

[nitr0us]

i vote for

Pistols:
http://www.gunblast.com/images/Paco_Kimber-1911A22/KIMBER23.jpg

Rifles:
XM8
http://homepage.mac.com/topcover/blog/images/XM8FinalVersion.jpg

G36C:
http://airsoft.shopbrno.cz/zbozi-fotky/g36c.jpg

Sniper Rifles:
SR-25
http://www.dogfightink.com/SR25.jpg

SVD
http://www.dragunov.net/action/russian_svd_pose.jpg

Sub-Machine Guns:
Bizon
http://www.aacblog.com/wp-content/uploads/russian-bizon3.jpg

in b4 rage

[downbad]

i think adding another high powered pistol like the 1911 could be nice. like CT-m4/T-ak it would be CT-1911/T-Deagle. You could have a trade-off with the two pistols like the rifles do. AK=more powerful, can spray less... m4=little less powerful, can spray more.

EDIT:
The problem with adding those^ new rifles is that if they arent just about the same price as ak/m4 then no one will use them. They'd have to be nearly the same price and have different style of trade-offs. But even then, that has been done already with the famas and galil (rates of fire and ammo capacity). So there is not much left to do along the lines of rifles. Pistols on the other hand, like i said, the deagle could use a cousin.

[pRopaaNS]

Seeing a picture doesn`t mean much, what is important is what`s so special about those guns... Anyway i don`t think what one more sniper is neccessary, awp is all what we need and those others are used by lols(scout, botguns). Cs 1.5 had already bunch of sniper rifles and having 2 equal guns is quite pointless, since appearance really isn`t important thing in cs. Even if appearance doesn`t matter, while that SR-25 looks like modificied m4a1, having a sniper rifle with silencer would be too overpowered plaything. It`s basics of cs to start avoiding bullets by jumping and bunnyhopping as long as you know what there is sniper out there, but with silencer you won`t know that and this is game over. Also that would man what there won`t be much use to buy awp anymore. Talking about XM8, i think what we already have enough weapon with scopes. Scout, sg552, august, T botgun, CT botgun, awp... G36C: i don`t think we have too few similiar guns. P90, mp5, tmp, uzi, ump and you want one more? Ok, i don`t have anything against it. Bizon is with granade launcher? If that loads in the same granade what we usually buy, then i`m not against it.

[ccJohnson]

The P228 uses 9x19mm Parabellum IRL, in cs it uses .357 SIG. The p228 needs to be changed to a p226 for continuity. p226 should compete with the Deagle but the p226 is not very accurate first shot(in cs) so it gets broomed.

[StJudas]

If you want 1.6 guys comming in , stay through with the mindset of 1.6 gameplay in a much needed graphical change.

Think of it like playing soccer and you just switch from dirt to a fine grass court. Same ball tho albeit a bit shiny.

[DooM49]

If you want 1.6 guys comming in , stay through with the mindset of 1.6 gameplay in a much needed graphical change.

Think of it like playing soccer and you just switch from dirt to a fine grass court. Same ball tho albeit a bit shiny.

yeah but what were saying is once its fully 100% ready, we work out a new weapon to put in thats well rounded and appropriate. Were not asking for a dramatic change that would cripple the game

[nitr0us]

I honestly don't mind if there should be new guns, or they keep the same ones.

I find it funny that some people are agreeing with me, I mainly posted those guns earlier to troll, but just as a suggestion. People seemed to not mind it =P

The Bizon uses a helix magazine, which gives it the "grenade launcher" look, and with the high capacity magazine, it could work well as a higher-tier, more expensive MP5 (same caliber, maybe give it more accuracy, mid-range, slightly more damage).

For the G36C and XM8, I don't know, they just look cool, that's all. :lol:

For Sniper Rifles:
The SR-20 and SVD could be semi-automatic like the G3 and the SG550 (or even replace them because they look better :D). Must keep the Scout and L96A1 (AWP) though, because they're badass.

For the pistols it could be in these tiers:
Low Tier
Glock-18 (9mm)
Beretta 92FS (9mm) [or maybe just one Beretta 98G Elite II from the Dualies]

Mid Tier
HK USP (.45 ACP)
SIG P223 (.357 SIG)
FN Five Seven (5.7mm)

High Tier
Colt 1911 (.45 ACP [or .40 S&W to compensate for magazine size])
IMI Desert Eagle (.50 AE)

[ccJohnson]

Play a little socom?

I've always wanted a rifle both teams could buy to have an equal footing like the SMG category. I would love to see a new single fire rifle like an M-14 or M1Carbine. Low magazine capacity with slightly higher than famas damage.

[hxcguitarist]

Just a thought, instead of new weapons, why not implement a somewhat stronger, yet more expensive, ammunition type for players to buy? The ammunition could cost a lot more than standard ammo; anywhere from $100-$300 more per clip depending on the weapon. So upgraded glock ammunition would cost an extra $150 per clip, or the M4a1 ammunition would cost an extra $275 per clip. This stronger ammunition doesn't have to change recoil or anything like that. It just costs more and does a little bit of extra damage.

[viraL]

Just a thought, instead of new weapons, why not implement a somewhat stronger, yet more expensive, ammunition type for players to buy? The ammunition could cost a lot more than standard ammo; anywhere from $100-$300 more per clip depending on the weapon. So upgraded glock ammunition would cost an extra $150 per clip, or the M4a1 ammunition would cost an extra $275 per clip. This stronger ammunition doesn't have to change recoil or anything like that. It just costs more and does a little bit of extra damage.

Realistically that's not possible.

I'm no firearms expert, but you couldn't make a round do more damage/be more lethal without changing the caliber. You can improve penetrability at the loss of stopping power, but that doesn't mean it's going to do more damage at all.

Match grade ammunition purchase would be a more viable option, but then you would need to implement and entire ballistics system to regulate ammunition accuracy, and for such a CQC game (less than 100 metre engagements) that's entirely useless.

[hxcguitarist]

Like I said, it was just a thought :)

But back on topic, no new guns anytime soon please.

[viraL]

Like I said, it was just a thought :)

But back on topic, no new guns anytime soon please.

+1

Get the game right first.

Move on to the extras after.

[iamryun]

nope. go play farcry 2

[drice27]

T**people keep using ak and m4a1 all the time? How weapon looks isn`t so important,**.
wait what? so you mean AK and M4 dosent look good? M4A1 is the most sexy weapon there is and AK is on my top10!..
how they look has alot to say (yeah how they shoot is more important but jsut stating my point.).

and from BETA1.0 to 1.6 they added a shitload of weapons..

BETA1.0 contained of usp, glock, shotgun, m4a1, mp5 navy, TMP, awp, G3/SG-1 & FN M249 PARA

if you really wanna keep it old school there will be no AK as you can see.. so adding a weapon or 2 wont destroy the game, but it need sto be balanced so no 50cal Sniper or RPG etc.

[smartin]

Dr.Ice, the difference here is that original cs added weapons to their own game which was in development and under constant update. csp is remaking an already established competitive game, that has teams, organisations, sponsors etc. which has been practically untouched for several years.

[pRopaaNS]

m1a1 and ak looks great, i just mean what nobody ever become bored of ak/m4a1 and if important thing was really appearance, then players would buy mp5, famas and other weapons much more frequently.
I`ve also noticed what my favourite weapons in other games aren`t my favourites just because of theyr looks, but mainly because of theyr accuracy and power.

[vapiant]

I'm not talking about some program that would make new weapons or anything... People would just simply have to make their own files, if you want extra weapons, you would need to code do all the coding your self, make the models your self, make the new weapon list your self ....... All I'm saying is that there a function like a cvar or something:

"host_allowmodify 0" Original Counter-Strike style gameplay.
"host_allowmodify 1" Allows you to have changed and/or new weapon, New skins, Have a mod running .... Anything changed that are change able.

All I'm asking is to make it possible to add weapons, instead of only be able to change damage, recoil, fire rate....

[smartin]

This is not csdowhateveryouwanttoitmod.

[haGisson]

This is not csdowhateveryouwanttoitmod.

i lol'd ^^

[vapiant]

No, but people will have some incredibly modified servers running any way. Play cs with new weapons is nothing special.

[pRopaaNS]

No, but people will have some incredibly modified servers running any way. Play cs with new weapons is nothing special.
That`s because they are just using different weapon models. Like i said, appearance isn`t important in cs. If there will be new weapons, that won`t be the same as just taking already existing weapon and adding a different model for it.

[Chris]

We should have noobtubes like in mw2! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJc7XzRkdWs


aawwweeeeesommeeeeee

[nitr0us]

I agree with a fully functional 1.6 gameplay, but hey, the team could open opportunities to newer ideas. Maybe like an experimental pub mode, where pub mode turned on, the newer experiment weapons are able to be used. In pro mode, the guns are not able to be purchased.

[smartin]

I agree with a fully functional 1.6 gameplay, but hey, the team could open opportunities to newer ideas. Maybe like an experimental pub mode, where pub mode turned on, the newer experiment weapons are able to be used. In pro mode, the guns are not able to be purchased.
Too much for such a small team tbh. Maybe if the devteam had 3 quadrillion members like Black Mesa.

[vapiant]

People still don't get a F**KING SH*T! The team only need to make it possible for others to make the weapons... Would that be any problem?

[pRopaaNS]

Yea, that would be a huge problem, people will create machine guns with no recoil, awp dmg, 300 bullet magazine and firing rate 30 bullets per sec. But if you mean what people can change only models, then that won`t make any use too. Besides like somebody knows how to create models and can do it in good level. Maybe people will just change texture of model and it`s your "own personal weapon", loL.

[nitr0us]

Yea, that would be a huge problem, people will create machine guns with no recoil, awp dmg, 300 bullet magazine and firing rate 30 bullets per sec. But if you mean what people can change only models, then that won`t make any use too. Besides like somebody knows how to create models and can do it in good level. Maybe people will just change texture of model and it`s your "own personal weapon", loL.

I agree, it will just be FPSBanana whoring all over again with user-enabled, unrestricted customization,.

Oh, and I hate FPSBanana.

[vapiant]

Now I know the problem, you guys only read the headline, "for servers" means that it will be files in the server only. Oh my god why don't people read!

But if somebody launches a server with weapons that has 'no recoil', 'extreme fire rate' and/or 'heavy damage'. I would say it's his/her own problem, because nobody would play on a such server. How I can say so? Well it's possible to do in source, even easy to make.

EDIT: Alba and Smartin please look this through, you usually respond cleverly.

[pRopaaNS]

You can make your own weapon mod if you want, but i don`t see how it`s related with csp...

[jAck0r]

Pro Rocket Launcher & Redeemer

[vapiant]

Of course CSP is for now very closed and the devs don't want to allow everything, but this could maybe save them from some coding. As it would instead of making a 'disallow other weapon files' function, they could just make a 'check if original files' function.

[[EA]]

I want a deagle that can shoot lightning bolts and stuns its opponent.

[DooM49]

I want a deagle that can shoot lightning bolts and stuns its opponent.

war craft 3 mod?