Noob weapons

[Arty]

I hop in cspromod (Counter-Strike professional mod) will not be Galil and FAMAS, because:
1) Professional do not play with this weapons.
2) Galil and FAMAS practically have no disorder of bullets and each child bought this weapon can kill many people.
3) I remember when played cs 1.3 and cs 1.5 many people played with MP5, now when practically under the same price it is possible to buy Galil/FAMAS more somebody does not play with MP5, TMP, MAC-10, P90 and UMP45.

[Chris]

I hop in cspromod (Counter-Strike professional mod) will not be Galil and FAMAS, because:
1) Professional do not play with this weapons.
2) Galil and FAMAS practically have no disorder of bullets and each child bought this weapon can kill many people.
3) I remember when played cs 1.3 and cs 1.5 many people played with MP5, now when practically under the same price it is possible to buy Galil/FAMAS more somebody does not play with MP5, TMP, MAC-10, P90 and UMP45.

1: They do.
2: They aren't as strong as the m4, ak, so who cares?
3: Apparently the price difference isn't too small, people still buy smgs.

So no worries :)

[tiger]

1) Professional do not play with this weapons.


rofl. apparently you have never seen an HLTV.

[Arty]

I knew that here will not understand me, simply very much it were not would be desirable that in csp these the weapon.
Without Galil/FAMAS cspromod would be more brutal, as cs 1.5.

[Lordearon]

I'm sorry, but Potti is a Famas pro!
They are a good alternative early in the game or even later on when you're the only 1 without money and your team bought m4's (mostly talking about famas)

[tiger]

you're using google translator, right?

[Arty]

I'm using PROMT translator.

[Phat]

I hop in cspromod (Counter-Strike professional mod) will not be Galil and FAMAS, because:
1) Professional do not play with this weapons.
2) Galil and FAMAS practically have no disorder of bullets and each child bought this weapon can kill many people.
3) I remember when played cs 1.3 and cs 1.5 many people played with MP5, now when practically under the same price it is possible to buy Galil/FAMAS more somebody does not play with MP5, TMP, MAC-10, P90 and UMP45.

I don't know where you get your facts from...

[DIEEIER]

Mp5 is still very good, you are missing that you can actually buy both in the team and do a great combo. Mp5 really slows you down and then your team hs with famas.

[Juu]

Hey don't put awp, mp5, guns, it's useless, just include M4A1 for a professional gameplay !!!!!

[Chris]

I knew that here will not understand me, simply very much it were not would be desirable that in csp these the weapon.
Without Galil/FAMAS cspromod would be more brutal, as cs 1.5.

We would understand you if you'd work on your grammar :P

[madmax]

I hop in cspromod (Counter-Strike professional mod) will not be Galil and FAMAS, because:
1) Professional do not play with this weapons.
2) Galil and FAMAS practically have no disorder of bullets and each child bought this weapon can kill many people.
3) I remember when played cs 1.3 and cs 1.5 many people played with MP5, now when practically under the same price it is possible to buy Galil/FAMAS more somebody does not play with MP5, TMP, MAC-10, P90 and UMP45.

Galil and Famas are actually used quite often in early matches, and especially by the pros. This is why they have been included in CSPromod along with the MP5.
fnatic is one of the best famas teams they use it alot :D

[RATpope]

wow dude my friend uses the shotgun in matches and is a complete beast i comenly use the tmp and mac10 they are useful in the hands of soem1 that has skill. and every1 uses the mp5 and p90 the p90 is a spraying weapon and the mp5 is jsut aamazing with its rate of fire unlike you msot peopel dont stick with 3 weapons ther whoel gaming life

[shumped]

I hop in cspromod (Counter-Strike professional mod) will not be Galil and FAMAS, because:
1) Professional do not play with this weapons.
2) Galil and FAMAS practically have no disorder of bullets and each child bought this weapon can kill many people.
3) I remember when played cs 1.3 and cs 1.5 many people played with MP5, now when practically under the same price it is possible to buy Galil/FAMAS more somebody does not play with MP5, TMP, MAC-10, P90 and UMP45.
1. they do, especially famas
2. GALIL can't be aimed with and famas has an incredible spread and weird recoil. it's not easy.
3. i remember when i played 1.3 and 1.5 and there was no galil and famas to. though when 1.6 came i loved them and can't see a cs without them or atleast famas. it's a good budget weapon.

[haGisson]

would be the same as "don't include the deagle, every noob can kill many people with it" omfg

1.6 didnt incluede famas and galil from start (am i right?) they came by an update

[haGisson]

don't know

[Chris]

wow dude my friend uses the shotgun in matches and is a complete beast i comenly use the tmp and mac10 they are useful in the hands of soem1 that has skill. and every1 uses the mp5 and p90 the p90 is a spraying weapon and the mp5 is jsut aamazing with its rate of fire unlike you msot peopel dont stick with 3 weapons ther whoel gaming life

No1 really uses the p90, such a waste of money, better off mp5 :)

[haGisson]

mp5 is great for spraying on distance :)

[yuri]

1.6 didnt incluede famas and galil from start (am i right?) they came by an update
No, FAMAS, Galil and Tactical Shield were a part of 1.6 since the first Beta, which was 1st Steam app. IIRC ;)


...Galil and FAMAS, because:
1) Professional do not play with this weapons.

Seriously, watch some replay first :D

[vapiant]

Famas and Galil would be fair weapons if they were made like they are in RL, because they both damage more than M4. Also they should have better movement speed than AK, as they are lighter. I think you wouldn't make the famas 100% realistic as it would become very overpowered, as the fire rate is exactly the same as P90, the barrel is very long so it's a very precise weapon.

But in my opinion all you should do with those weapon is +damage.

I don't Galil and famas is a problem, I'm more worried about SG552 and AUG as they are more expensive than AK/M4, but less used.

if you want to compare them.




Basic damage
-----
galil chest 0 m 29 hp(damage)
famas chest 0 m 29 hp 0 ap
ak47 chest 0 m 35 hp 0 ap
m4a1 chest 0 m 31 hp 0 ap
m4a1 (sil) chest 0 m 32 hp 0 ap
sg552 chest 0 m 32 hp 0 ap
aug chest 0 m 31 hp 0 ap

Mid Range Damage - 50 meter
-----
galil chest 50 m 27 hp 0 ap
famas chest 50 m 25 hp 0 ap
ak47 chest 50 m 33 hp 0 ap
m4a1 chest 50 m 28 hp 0 ap
m4a1 (sil) chest 50 m 26 hp 0 ap
sg552 chest 50 m 27 hp 0 ap
aug chest 50 m 27 hp 0 ap

Headshots - 50 meter
-----
galil head 50 m 108 hp 0 ap
famas head 50 m 100 hp 0 ap
ak47 head 50 m 132 hp 0 ap
m4a1 head 50 m 112 hp 0 ap
m4a1 (sil) head 50 m 104 hp 0 ap
sg552 head 50 m 108 hp 0 ap
aug head 50 m 108 hp 0 ap

All this numbers are from http://www.ggf-gaming.de/weapons/dc_version3.php, it's an damage calculator, german page, but the calculator is in english.

[haGisson]

when they keep it like it is now (price & damage) the game is balanced well

[smartin]

Arty is a troll fyi.

[MaveN]

All this numbers are from http://www.ggf-gaming.de/weapons/dc_version3.php, it's an damage calculator, german page, but the calculator is in english.
This website can be very helpful for the CSP Team!

[vapiant]

All this numbers are from http://www.ggf-gaming.de/weapons/dc_version3.php, it's an damage calculator, german page, but the calculator is in english.
This website can be very helpful for the CSP Team!

You thought I hadn't figured that out :P

But since this game is made with the source engine, I think you should be careful about making it like it is in 1.6(Of course don't even think about making 'em like css!), but if you are thinking about changing the weapons you should take a look at this: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637472 great balanced weapon mod for css, I also made one my self that is based on how the weapons are in RL, but it's in beta. If you want to know anything about weapons PM me I know all most everything, because I used the last 3 months on studying them :D