CSPromod. BETA. Patch. ETA. What you need to know!

[alba]

http://cspromod.com/images/media/csp105_patchinfo.jpg

Hey guys, I know a lot of you have been playing and enjoying the game as well as giving us a lot of feedback and bug reports on the current BETA (thanks for that) and I hope you will keep doing so in the next few weeks.

As you may already know, we let it take us a lot of time to release this current version and I've been asking for feedback on a desired future release schedule. Now that we have our game on the latest version of Valve's engine (at least the last one available to the modding community), we plan on updating the game as frequently as we are asked to. The general consensus so far seems to be in favor of monthly to bimonthly (two-monthly) updates. While this could vary over time depending on the developers free time and so on, we'll try our best to accommodate to it.

I can already say that the first patch is loosely scheduled to come out in mid February, which is faster than suggested release schedule but we'll stretch it out as we go along. We'll have more information regarding that patch when we're closer to release as well as a changelog when it is ready.

We hope you're having fun playing CSP and will continue to do so and spread the word around for everyone who might not have heard about it or simply isn't aware that it just came out. Keep playing, have fun and see you around the forums. Thanks for you support!

[Moffasin]

great

[sIMson]

Great, It's a wonderful idea :) A tip from me: correct the AK accuracy. The recoil is ok, but distant shots are too inaccurate. Thx in advance!

[alba]

The focus right now is obviously the huge bugs which are annoying everyone's play. The tweaking should come right after that.

[free]

I'm glad. There are some things really you really need to fix asap.

[cryeR]

alba ftw!!

[bikey]

Guys add sounds from 1.6, and the network code (interp) fix first of all

[Vitnir]

Very n1.
Thats the correct way to make cspromod more famous

[axion]

great, that's what we all wanted to hear. if u really keep your promises, it'll become a big community soon.

[wHEElEr]

perhaps you can findout wtf is happening with godmode? hahah

[Hard1945]

nice !

[cryeR]

its not godmode , its a model displacement i think

[k1no]

Awesome, this is what everyone is looking for.

[alba]

its not godmode , its a model displacement i think

Correct. Seems to be engine related, we're gonna see what we can do about it. It's really important to get rid of it ASAP obviously :P

[yuri]

its not godmode , its a model displacement i thinkLike alba said, when you see a godmoder try a HE -> it might make splash dmg to displaced hitboxes.

[tiger]

its not godmode , its a model displacement i think

Wow, someone who knows what he's talking about on these forums... Impressive! :P

[ploddi]

You should do shorter iterations since 2007.

[mingot]

nice!!!

[Ricardas]

That is cool to our CSP community! CSP FTW! We love u!

[cryberg]

every 2 weegz would be better

[LiqzZ]

Really good news. There was so much hype around 1.04 and it was all lost due to no updates. Will be stoked to play promod when the majour bugs are fixed.

[m-sharingan]

Great @ whole CSP team

[dsLoL]

Keep the ball a-rollin, I like it! Maybe you should get Alex Garfield to get chattin to ESL/ESEA !

[BERSERK]

The recoil and hitbox in CSP 1.04 is better then this Release (CSP1.05)... Pls, correct this recoil and hitbox problem...! THX CSP TEAM

[Massey]

Glad to hear the first patch won't take too long. This is vital imo.

[Fubister]

really glad to hear about the regular updates, well done you

[twiddler]

Feels like the old beta CS times...I like it.

[leefay]

hopefully these updates keep rolling out quickly and on schedule

[Bradlewis]

Great news guys.

This version is buy far the best and most playable version of promod, just dont let it die. Its so close. :P

[Dare365]

So this next update in February will be 1.06? Its become weird to think of it that way. :P

[alba]

So this next update in February will be 1.06? Its become weird to think of it that way. :P
No, this is a patch for 1.05. 1.06 is the next version.

[[EA]]

Nice, I seem bugged.

[Coinz]

Glad to hear it will be looking forward to this.

[Frgr]

Maybe add the bug-report section as a link on this news section? So that people who wants to contribute finds it very easy to submit bugs they've encounterd. Just a thought.

Also do you guys think its possible to get in contact with HPE for the model-related engine bugs? idk but it seems like this is a tough nut to crack since HPE used 2-4 weeks to sort it when they were working full-time. (atleast my impression) Also hope you update the devlog with more specifics and how your comming along. I'm such a control-freak! RELEASE ME OF THESE SHACKLES!!!

[Lordearon]

Hpe?

[alba]

Hpe?

Hidden Path Entertainment, the people who're in charge of doing the CSS updates.

[duydangle]

I love it :D.

[moloch]

Great!I can't wait (I love godmod :naughty: ) :D

[Masternoob]

No, this is a patch for 1.05. 1.06 is the next version.

you shuld call it 1.05.1 or 1.051 ...otherwise it will be confusing when someone is reporting a bug in Version 1.05, nobody will know which version he has...
it will me a mess :P

[Mith]

yes because these forums would otherwise work in an organized and orderly fashion

[sIMson]

I think 1.05a would be nice, just like it was with 1.03.

[Masternoob]

I think 1.05a would be nice, just like it was with 1.03.

it doesn't matter much as long as it is not called 1.05 ^^

[JKN]

Sounds awesome with updates each month - CSPROMOD<3. :D

[shibble]

Great! :D
Keep up the work :D

[phinski]

The focus right now is obviously the huge bugs which are annoying everyone's play. The tweaking should come right after that.

AK accuracy is really huge load of sh!7 now. Makes game unplayable 'cause colt is so more powerful right now. Should be fixed asap...

[Massey]

AK accuracy is really huge load of sh!7 now. Makes game unplayable 'cause colt is so more powerful right now. Should be fixed asap...

I agree, the AK needs to be fixed ASAP. Colt and AK are the most popular weapons. So this is a no-brainer really.

[CreamStylez]

the movespeed and prestrafing must be fixed

[LLLorenz]

btw who made the BEEFY COMPUTER @ csp_nuke ?

LOLOLOL

[tiger]

the movespeed and prestrafing must be fixed

Could you elaborate on that please?

[alba]

If people could PLEASE refrain from posting bugs in the news section and use the appropriate one, I'd be grateful. Right now it seems all the bugs stuff is in feedback intstead of being in bugs and bugs is empty aside from the official maps stuff.

Pretty pretty please, if you could use the subforums like they're meant to, I'd really appreciate it, thanks.

[cryeR]

if this would be a closed thread, 999 new ones would appear in all sections :)

[IMTYPING]

WHY are there still physic objects in some maps ??? even in areas where players cant get w/o cheats...

[Corruptbe]

There are a few bugs that need adressing asap and not within 2 months. 1 being the godmode glitch.

[Chris]

Sweet.

[fragurass]

How about adding all the commands needed to run fun maps such as scoutzknivez and surf maps.

sv_airaccelerate
sv_maxspeed

etc

[djolence]

yeah pls cs 1.6 weap sounds :) and ex_interp ,no cl_interp :)

[Gonzalo]

Guys add sounds from 1.6, and the network code (interp) fix first of all

Agree with the part of the sound of 1.6.
Very nice, gj guys and gl in the future. We are waiting for the new era of e-sports. Greetings from Argentina, and sorry for my english hehe.

[CreamStylez]

We need:

1) 1.6 Weapon Sounds
2) GodMode Bugfix
3) Scoreboard Bugfix
4) More Playermodels: GIGN, Arctic Avengers, GSG9 ....
5) Bomb Bag Update
6) Prestrafing, Movespeed Fix
7) Nade Animation Lags Bugfix

[tiger]

Guys, the 1.6 sounds are not gonna be added in CSP for legal reasons, you need to understand that.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with the player speed or prestrafing unless you prove me wrong (please do).

[n3krO]

Guys, the 1.6 sounds are not gonna be added in CSP for legal reasons, you need to understand that.

So you can use source sounds but u cant use 1.6 sounds? damn... i think developer team should try to have a conversation with valve... valve got benefits with cspromod so they would try to ask valve for some coding/material required such us how to fix the hitbox displacement bug and if you may use cs1.6 sounds...

[Mith]

They could use 1.6 sounds... but that would mean people would need to own BOTH 1.6 and CSS to play CSP.

They already use CSS assets because they have to use it's engine anyway, so it's not like they could drop that and make a stand-alone game. But adding requirements from ANOTHER game to CSP is just unfeasible as it'd cripple it's playerbase even further.

[duydangle]

First of all, fix the flash, it's very annoying...

[CreamStylez]

on dust2 is not the l33t "goose" texture on the wall ...
and i think the coder team must be perpetuate on textures at the maps,
i think a many of names must on wall, from players and coders who make the game great, in future this are new positions in the wars
and whats with the autosnipers and something ? not available?

[n3krO]

on dust2 is not the l33t "goose" texture on the wall ...
and i think the coder team must be perpetuate on textures at the maps,
i think a many of names must on wall, from players and coders who make the game great, in future this are new positions in the wars
and whats with the autosnipers and something ? not available?

ofc it's not and i think this are 2 weapons that should be out of cs such as tatical shielf...

[zwacki]

and since the tactical shield is excluded r_drawviewmodels 0 should be allowed

[n3krO]

and since the tactical shield is excluded r_drawviewmodels 0 should be allowed

This has been discuted before... r_drawviewmodels 0 = huge advantage for who use it so it won't be added... the game only make options for things that doesn't affect the gameplay the most..

[LLLorenz]

Cleaner maps pls :) less edges / windows / doors / things at the roof that block nades =] would be a BIG improvement
& have a look at this topic ( page 1&4) some useful screens
http://cspromod.com/community/threads/3750-1.6-player-huge-feedback-pics-*

Lorenz
Bescene.net

[CreamStylez]

spot b on de_nuke is not high enough we cant do this at csp .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsT_m3RyIX4

[Lordearon]

spot b on de_nuke is not high enough we cant do this at csp .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsT_m3RyIX4

keep this reports bullshit out of the news section.
+ CSP actively blocks defusing through floors/walls IIRC, it's illegal in most leagues.

[CreamStylez]

keep this reports bullshit out of the news section.
+ CSP actively blocks defusing through floors/walls IIRC, it's illegal in most leagues.


this is from an pro series match ... this bug is legal in the esl ...

[Lordearon]

yeah, but not legal in most leagues (I know it was from esl and I played on esl when I lived in Europe)

[ritch]

Are you stupid ? It's legal on all EPS and LAN maybe except dreamhack...

[MrBaruth]

After 1 week the game is already dead (no one plays it)... I hope the next update to be good, if not ...

[cryberg]

After 1 week the game is already dead (no one playes it)... I hope the next update to be good, if not ...
+1
same like year before...
update - everyone wants to try
after 1 week - no longer playing

sad

[tiger]

ded game is ded

[MrBaruth]

Right now there are 2 servers with players on (europe). There are less players playing then in 1.04

[mode19]

you're right, but i'd love if this game would be on competitions. only way to increase the community is to make a lot of csp cups(online+offline), and create csp ladders and leagues on the bigger tournament organizations like sgl esl etc.

[Skois]

please fix the bind of "duck"with"scroll"
that threatens the hitbox of the game ...

single "jump" to "scroll" but please do not duck

[hstyle]

Good idea, not bind duck in scroll, it gives the advantage.

Esl and co it's illegal.

[majkool]

Good idea, not bind duck in scroll, it gives the advantage.

Esl and co it's illegal.

http://cspromod.com/community/threads/3859-duck-with-scroll?highlight=duck+scroll

[Lordearon]

Are you stupid ? It's legal on all EPS and LAN maybe except dreamhack...
it's illegal in most leagues .

EDIT:
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=site:hltv.org+defuse+box&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=7828c4946c5db268

--- Update ---

illegal in gamegune, arbalet, wcg, ...



I also had the chance to look at other tournaments' rulebooks, and I realized that Arbalet's rulebook is based on the WCG's. If you take a look at the rulebooks from CEVO and the ESWC, they say different.

ESWC: "The following actions are strictly prohibited during a game and will result in a 3 rounds loss which will be deducted at the end of the match, and a warning:

- Defuse a bomb through a wall, a roof, or any other element of the map is forbidden."

CEVO: "It is illegal to fully defuse a bomb through any solid object. CEVO officials retain full discretion in determining if an illegal defuse occurred and how many rounds may be reversed (no more than three (3) rounds will be reversed for each illegal defuse) if needed. Multiple violations by a player and/or team may also result in a suspension and/or team termination (suspension lengths and team termination are up to the judgment of the officials)."



And
http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=44155#r794533


FYI:

ESWC: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eswc.com%2Frules%2Fen%2Fplaye r%2FESWC2010_COUNTER-STRIKE_REGULATION_EN_1_0.pdf&ei=RI_tS6CFJJHgtgOu0eX6Dw&usg=AFQjCNEzFknyEFHagj-nQuJwAX87HM4GWQ&sig2=6JVD3y5B7oU5ScPzkD8qFg

"Defuse a bomb through a wall, a roof, or any other element of the map is forbidden."

WCG: http://www.wcg.com/6th/2010/games/rules_2010/WCG_2010_NC_CS_Rules_ver_1.0.pdf

"When defusing, the player must be able to see a part of the bomb. Defusing
through objects is not permitted. "

CEVO: http://www.cevo.com/index.php?page=div&id=299&func=rules#section_25.40

"It is illegal to fully defuse a bomb through any solid object. CEVO officials retain full discretion in determining if an illegal defuse occurred and how many rounds may be reversed (no more than three (3) rounds will be reversed for each illegal defuse) if needed. Multiple violations by a player and/or team may also result in a suspension and/or team termination (suspension lengths and team termination are up to the judgment of the officials)."

ESL: http://gamer.lk/index.php?topic=3630.0;wap2

"It is illegal to defuse the bomb without seeing a piece of it and/or masking the defusal sound by turning on your flashlight while defusing. A penalty of 3 rounds overturned to the other team will occur."

ESEA: http://esea.net/index.php?s=content&d=league_rules_cs

"Illegal Bomb Defuses - the bomb cannot be defused through solid objects and the defusing player must be able to see part of the bomb in order to legally defuse"

Lastly, Arbalet rulepacket:

"When defusing, the player must be able to see a part of the bomb. Defusing through
objects is not permitted."



I don't know why I'm defending myself vs a troll like ritch (posting history says 'nuff)

[free]

Are you going to try to correct the AK and USP recoil in the next patch?

[mode19]

i dont think so, the patch will contain only bug fixes.

[Hard1945]

when will the patch released ?

[n69ky]

Some day at some o'clock ...

[Hard1945]

ty -_-

[Massey]

Some day at some o'clock ...

I marked my calendar.

[n69ky]

I marked my calendar.

forgot to add "in some year"

[zwacki]

its the middle of the month and i need some patch lovin!

[Fr0stY]

It's already a middle of the month, they'll release any day now. Give or take a few days.

[zwacki]

I am just joking around i cannot play this awesome game anyway :( I only own a midsize laptop which is not capable of running anything in opengl :(

[free]

CSP uses DirectX not OpenGL.

[zwacki]

same applies for directx :)

[duydangle]

Where is the patch T___________T?

[Rampage]

can you change crosshair in patch? (as like in css beta http://saveimg.ru/show-image.php?id=f56d98f79d515583a27f0981bad9347f)

[n69ky]

lol... Rampage, no and you never will... lol

[cryberg]

patch patch patch patch patch patch patch patch

[MCkubbe]

After 1 week the game is already dead (no one plays it)... I hope the next update to be good, if not ...

It's called no non-steam phenomenom !

[pR8]

Like always albo doing a lot and others seems to do somthing but not realy care, to be honest still when there are some ppl interesed in promod i would seriously think about changing some ppl in dev team.

[tiger]

Like always albo doing a lot and others seems to do somthing but not realy care, to be honest still when there are some ppl interesed in promod i would seriously think about changing some ppl in dev team.

you're a genius, you should be a dev

[blackaddR]

Like always albo doing a lot and others seems to do somthing but not realy care, to be honest still when there are some ppl interesed in promod i would seriously think about changing some ppl in dev team.

That's a little unfair. Just because the other devs do not post as much than Alba, doesn't mean that they don't "really care". Ever occured to you that they are very busy doing the work and trying to hurry this patch out, for ungrateful tits like you?

[Masternoob]

That's a little unfair. Just because the other devs do not post as much than Alba, doesn't mean that they don't "really care". Ever occured to you that they are very busy doing the work and trying to hurry this patch out, for ungrateful tits like you?

hihi tits ^^

[CreamStylez]

still waiting and smiling :)

[free]

If anyone is unhappy the speed of current development you should try to do some stuff yourself. This is not a true community based mod as the source is closed and all the devs had their NDA's and stuff but you can always try to do things to contribute to CSP.

For example i'm pretty sure we could all use Screenshots and movies in slow-motion with recoil old and new recoil (with numeric values as suggested in the ak47 recoil thread) Make screenshots of all the particles used in 1.6 smoke blood from hs and non-hs shots etc. Screenshots or movies (preferably slow-motion) showing what animations are still wrong and need to be perfected (both style and speed it)Simply any stuff that migt a guy should do if he had replied for a csp job advert (top of the page).

[Lordearon]

and concerning the recoil, preferably for long distance as that's where there seems to be an issue?

[[EA]]

So about this patch? ;-)

[CreamStylez]

cool story with the patch ...

[tiger]

http://i.imgur.com/m0IYg.jpg

[Mith]

its y not why

[cryberg]

WHERE THE FUCK is your announced patch ?

[mode19]

WHERE THE FUCK is your announced patch ?

fool -.-

[MCkubbe]

If anyone is unhappy the speed of current development you should try to do some stuff yourself. This is not a true community based mod as the source is closed and all the devs had their NDA's and stuff but you can always try to do things to contribute to CSP.

For example i'm pretty sure we could all use Screenshots and movies in slow-motion with recoil old and new recoil (with numeric values as suggested in the ak47 recoil thread) Make screenshots of all the particles used in 1.6 smoke blood from hs and non-hs shots etc. Screenshots or movies (preferably slow-motion) showing what animations are still wrong and need to be perfected (both style and speed it)Simply any stuff that migt a guy should do if he had replied for a csp job advert (top of the page).

As admin's and moderators , that got to be their concern , but I don't see them concerned , I know I'm treathened - but I just repeat what others have said .

[tiger]

its y not why

right, i knew something was off


As admin's and moderators , that got to be their concern , but I don't see them concerned

you'd be surprised.

[baho]

Seems the patch is coming. Hopefully, it will be up for download in the next couple of hours. If not, well, tomorrow it is. But at least post those patch changes please! :)

[alba]

WHERE THE FUCK is your announced patch ?

in the MOTHERFUCKING PIPE yo' !

[baho]

Be sure to keep the patching at this pace and this mod MIGHT actually have a future.

[CREDiBLE]

in the MOTHERFUCKING PIPE yo' !
http://nerd-factory.com/ftp/promod-bug/what.png

[MCkubbe]

in the MOTHERFUCKING PIPE yo' !
This Mod is done , if the admin swear his players . !

[baho]

This Mod is done , if the admin swear his players . !
Need a tissue?



Bump for the changelog at least... please. Want to see it before i go to sleep :(

[Diablorunner]

Man the canons call the soldiers, THE TROLLS ARE COMMING!

[tiger]

This Mod is done , if the admin swear his players . !

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KOQCcbme7o&feature=player_embedded)

[alba]

I'll post the changelog tonight as soon as I'm done writing it. I'll continue that in 20 mins or so =)

[majkool]

Great!

I hope that some concrete changes You have for us.

[baho]

U'll continue in 20 mins? Or finish in 20 mins? Can u pls hurry up a little? Shouldn't take more then 10 minutes to write a list of changes... and it's late :(

[[EA]]

U'll continue in 20 mins? Or finish in 20 mins? Can u pls hurry up a little? Shouldn't take more then 10 minutes to write a list of changes... and it's late :(

Haha, you'd be surprised at how long it actually takes...

[n69ky]

like 25 minutes at least Xd hahahahhaha

[baho]

Must be a damn big list to write X(

[cryberg]

in the MOTHERFUCKING PIPE yo' !
Dont be rude!

[n69ky]

Dont be rude!

Then don't be impatient!

[baho]

Hello? >.>

[cryberg]

ok :-*

[baho]

12 hours... changelog coming any time soon? Or u decided to release it at the same time with the patch it self?

[majkool]

Alright, gonna finish all of that later, super late over here and since I'm already on US time time to go to bed. Hopefully tomorrow ben will be here so we can get this thing out :p

So release of the patch is dependent on the presence of Ben, I think that's why it aleady takes 12h.

[alba]

Yes, I'll explain the situation in the news I'll post later today. That's basically why it's taking this long :)

[baho]

Sorry, i don't think u understood me. I wasn't talking about the patch it self, was talking only about the change/fix list. I'm more interested in what they did for this patch then the patch it self.

[majkool]

But alba can't complete the changelog since Ben has to confirm whether everything has been done.

[baho]

Oh o_O, i believed the changes are set in stone by now, and Ben is only needed for God knows what, maybe setting up the download locations and whatever. Anyway, will we see it today maybe?

[alba]

Oh o_O, i believed the changes are set in stone by now, and Ben is only needed for God knows what, maybe setting up the download locations and whatever. Anyway, will we see it today maybe?

Ben is needed because he's the one who makes the build compilation progress and has a few more bug fixes he has to commit to them. I'll explain everything tonight with the news post. I'm finishing the changelog and then I'll write a news on the current changelog and will add changes when he gets there.

[baho]

I'm finishing the changelog and then I'll write a news on the current changelog and will add changes when he gets there.

Flawless! Waiting ... :)

[alba]

Writing the news post right now.

[majkool]

I can't wait what have You got for us.

[moloch]

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KOQCcbme7o&feature=player_embedded)
Now you are right... :D
LoL i wait for changelog and now is 1:14 morning :(
I can't wait for 1.06 release :')