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RATpope
10-25-2009, 05:04 PM
ok so i started off on source played a while tried my hand at the awp and realized quickly over a year that i sucked at it so i stuck with my rifles and smgs, so my cousin convinces me to buy 1.6 i do and i love it dont try at the awp for a while pick it up and get 4 kills almost instantly. amazed i realized there must be something going on and i was right the awp is a thousand times more accurate in 1.6, so wat im trying to get to after this long phrase is, make the awp feel like the source awp jsut so its not as cheap beacause i happen to know that there are thousands of gamers each day swearing like sailor boozed up on top of a hooker while his legs are being burned beacause the awp is too cheap and think that would probably make them and me happy i dont thin kthe awp should be abel to take out large numbers of people.

element13
10-25-2009, 05:15 PM
ok so i started off on source played a while tried my hand at the awp and realized quickly over a year that i sucked at it so i stuck with my rifles and smgs, so my cousin convinces me to buy 1.6 i do and i love it dont try at the awp for a while pick it up and get 4 kills almost instantly. amazed i realized there must be something going on and i was right the awp is a thousand times more accurate in 1.6, so wat im trying to get to after this long phrase is, make the awp feel like the source awp jsut so its not as cheap beacause i happen to know that there are thousands of gamers each day swearing like sailor boozed up on top of a hooker while his legs are being burned beacause the awp is too cheap and think that would probably make them and me happy i dont thin kthe awp should be abel to take out large numbers of people.

I'm a 1.6 player and I'm pretty damn good with an awp. I'm good with an AWP in source too. It's the same damn thing to me. No matter what game I play, I am good with scopes. Why? Because I actually have good aim with a scope.

The reason 1.6 awp is possibly more "accurate" is because of interp and 1.6's crappy net code.

Not trying to be rude or anything, but the most likely reason for the awp being easier for you in 1.6 is because you were probably interping.

What your thread should be talking about is that you don't want there to be interp problems in CSP.

PolarPanda
10-25-2009, 10:38 PM
Seriously, we're having a 'noob-tube' debate here? The awp is easy to use against pubbers because most don't know how to flash or flank. It is damn hard to play with an awp (even a 1.6 awp) in competitive play. Watch some league footage and you'll see a lone awper has a hell of a time against a coordinated rush. Since awp delay, placing a lone awper in a site is like sending them on a suicide mission. That and its cost balances what advantage it does give.

If I'm not mistaken, unmoving scoped awp shots should hit the red dot every time, even in source, like element said. So really the accuracy is the same.

Matuka
10-26-2009, 12:03 AM
I'm the same, just with a twist.

I started out with Source, just like you, but soon I purchased 1.6/CZ/CZ:DS(Love deleted scenes! It's just fun!), and I started playing it for a few hours, but I soon moved back to Source for 4 months, after that I got better and better and began starting competitive gaming, then I realized that 1.6 was really the heart of it all, so I went back to 1.6, and honestly, I'm shittier with a AWP at 1.6 than I am with the AWP is source. It's just hard to get down the right flicks and aiming(Yeah, aiming just seems to be much harder for the reason that it's MORE accurate!) :<

@Element13,
Same here, no matter what, when I set my sights on the scope, my reaction-time is much faster. I can remember being a teams only sniper for some old random game, simply because my reaction time and aiming was much greater than it was with a Rifle/SMG.

kingovi
10-26-2009, 04:28 PM
I'm the same, just with a twist.

I started out with Source, just like you, but soon I purchased 1.6/CZ/CZ:DS(Love deleted scenes! It's just fun!), and I started playing it for a few hours, but I soon moved back to Source for 4 months, after that I got better and better and began starting competitive gaming, then I realized that 1.6 was really the heart of it all, so I went back to 1.6, and honestly, I'm shittier with a AWP at 1.6 than I am with the AWP is source. It's just hard to get down the right flicks and aiming(Yeah, aiming just seems to be much harder for the reason that it's MORE accurate!) :<

@Element13,
Same here, no matter what, when I set my sights on the scope, my reaction-time is much faster. I can remember being a teams only sniper for some old random game, simply because my reaction time and aiming was much greater than it was with a Rifle/SMG.


seriously?


the fuck you guys talking about. the awp is a 100% accurate, IN BOTH 1.6 AND SOURCE. this thread is bullshit all over
the awp is not easier in 1.6

its easier in source since the enemies are WAY bigger and you dont have the awp delay, but yeah we had this discussion somewhere else already

RATpope
10-26-2009, 05:16 PM
there is an awp delay in source instead of an ugly little pause they have guy pulling back the bolt action thingy

haGisson
10-26-2009, 05:17 PM
close pl0x

yogurt
10-26-2009, 05:36 PM
its easier in source since the enemies are WAY bigger

oh yeah it's your favourite argument while flaming source.

Yatta
10-26-2009, 05:41 PM
there is an awp delay in source instead of an ugly little pause they have guy pulling back the bolt action thingy
Uhm, no. In 1.6 there is a delay after switching to the awp, in source there is not. The only time the avatar pulls back the bolt is after you shoot and only if you don't quick switch.

oh yeah it's your favourite argument while flaming source.

Uhm, it's a fact. Do you really not understand the simple logic that a ~50% larger target would be easier to put the awp's crosshair on?

haGisson
10-27-2009, 08:51 AM
1.6 delay is fine

madmax
10-27-2009, 10:07 AM
the best would be a animation were you se the bolt action and the delay does not seem to bad as long :D
+ it looks nicer then just seing the bullet fly out after random time :lol:

russki
10-27-2009, 01:07 PM
there is an awp delay in source instead of an ugly little pause they have guy pulling back the bolt action thingy
Uhm, no. In 1.6 there is a delay after switching to the awp, in source there is not. The only time the avatar pulls back the bolt is after you shoot and only if you don't quick switch.

oh yeah it's your favourite argument while flaming source.

Uhm, it's a fact. Do you really not understand the simple logic that a ~50% larger target would be easier to put the awp's crosshair on?

That's why Danny Montaner always got outawped by mOE, devour, nickn0it, and brawr.. because the ~50% (lol untrue), larger target is easier to hit.

Lordearon
10-28-2009, 12:09 AM
I'm not saying the targets are smaller/bigger... just have this thought:

if you're used to smaller targets, you make sure you hit. [fr0d]

if you're used to bigger targets, you just flick and click... you'll probably be faster

Yatta
10-28-2009, 02:58 AM
there is an awp delay in source instead of an ugly little pause they have guy pulling back the bolt action thingy
Uhm, no. In 1.6 there is a delay after switching to the awp, in source there is not. The only time the avatar pulls back the bolt is after you shoot and only if you don't quick switch.

oh yeah it's your favourite argument while flaming source.

Uhm, it's a fact. Do you really not understand the simple logic that a ~50% larger target would be easier to put the awp's crosshair on?

That's why Danny Montaner always got outawped by mOE, devour, nickn0it, and brawr.. because the ~50% (lol untrue), larger target is easier to hit.
I can't really tell if you're trying to argue against me or not, but if you are:
I thought it was already well known that both games play completely differently. I guess that somehow doesn't apply to awpers?

Otherwise, ignore.

Lukeeeeeeeeee
10-28-2009, 01:10 PM
Keep AWP the way it is, with the 1.6 delay.

AWPing was way to easy in 1.5 and and before the delay was implemented in 1.6.

Leon
10-28-2009, 01:52 PM
Hi together,

http://img6.myimg.de/awp7fdd2_thumb.jpg (http://www.myimg.de/?img=awp7fdd2.jpg)

Is not exactly about, however think is a good Idea 4 CS - (Pro)mod.

What think the Community ? It is even more exciting 8-)

Leon
10-28-2009, 02:09 PM
Haha :ugeek: :lol:

I think it also :lol: i have xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Idea, this coming soon :o :roll:

TUROcKdev
10-28-2009, 05:00 PM
i think we dont need this effect because this is a mod with gameplay and not with so much realism ;)

Phat
10-29-2009, 12:11 PM
Seriously, we're having a 'noob-tube' debate here? The awp is easy to use against pubbers because most don't know how to flash or flank. It is damn hard to play with an awp (even a 1.6 awp) in competitive play. Watch some league footage and you'll see a lone awper has a hell of a time against a coordinated rush. Since awp delay, placing a lone awper in a site is like sending them on a suicide mission. That and its cost balances what advantage it does give.

If I'm not mistaken, unmoving scoped awp shots should hit the red dot every time, even in source, like element said. So really the accuracy is the same.

I completetly disagree with you, I'm a competitvive 1.6 player and source player and it is easy to play in almost any spot with an awp. All you need to know is angles angles angles, see them before they see you. There are some spots that it is hard to play with an awp, but you just need to adapt and learn different play styles. But i deffinately like the source awp more than the 1.6 (Obvious delay on 1.6 awp compared to 0 delay on the source awp)

rocket
11-08-2009, 04:47 AM
cant believe some ppl think the 1.6 awp is easier?? the only way it is easier is quickscoping which you cant do as fast in source as you can in 1.6 (with accuracy).. but honestly firing 3 bullets in the time you fire 1 in 1.6 i think clearly shows which one is easier :P lol.....

1.6 awp to stay.

shumped
11-08-2009, 04:11 PM
1.6 awp is source awp but slower. slower to shoot, slower to fast scope, slower from switching to shooting, slower in putting a new bullet in the chamber to shooting.

i find 1.6 awp easier simply because it's harder to pick me off at a distance with an AK/M4 than it is in source, therefore giving me more time to make sure i hit every shot instead of going crazy trying to avoid bullets and making sure my shots hits at the same time in source

11-09-2009, 03:25 AM
1.6 awp is source awp but slower.

wtf?

you mean css awp is 1.6 awp but faster.

you can't say: your father is like you, because you're his son ... lol .. XD

haGisson
11-09-2009, 03:31 AM
thought the same ^^