Flash/Smoke Killing?

[[EA]]

Remember those randy days in CSS where you can throw a flash/smoke nade into someone and they would epic die? There's a good chance it won't be implemented to CSP since it's not from 1.x origin, but it would be funny too see a kill from one of these in a scrim here and there. What do you guys think of this? :twisted:

[Apoqramses]

Remember those randy days in CSS where you can throw a flash/smoke nade into someone and they would epic die? There's a good chance it won't be implemented to CSP since it's not from 1.x origin, but it would be funny too see a kill from one of these in a scrim here and there. What do you guys think of this? :twisted:

There would definitely be some kinds of interesting videos^^

It doesn't makes THE difference(it only does 1HP, right?), so it wouldn't disturb professional gaming as well...
*hoping to tell no bullshit...* :lol:

[smartin]

I say what Snoop Dogg said right before he said "..., I have to do this quick"

[[EA]]

:ugeek:

[Yatta]

I think the more annoying part of the nades hurting people when hit is it freezes the player. I was playing CS:S the other day and died because a nade hit me, which froze me, which prevented me from running away. It was teh suck.

[Mith]

I think the more annoying part of the nades hurting people when hit is it freezes the player. I was playing CS:S the other day and died because a nade hit me, which froze me, which prevented me from running away. It was teh suck.

You mean it hitlocks you for a moment just like a normal shot does? If that really happens, then yeah that's pretty gay imo.

[madmax]

it should do like 1hp damage but not freze you at all :mrgreen:

[geniusreddy]

Yea, I first saw the flashbang kill in the ajnin vid...love how the death notice has this big ass flashbang after you do it lol.

[NosajThing]

You mean it hitlocks you for a moment just like a normal shot does? If that really happens, then yeah that's pretty gay imo.

I agree, in source it blocks you from jumping/movement if you are hit with a grenade and can even cause some horrific lag/glitches. I think the grenades should be able to pass though people and still cause the 1hp damage, that way we can take the best of both worlds.

[mang]

I don't recall grenades passing through people in CS 1.6 either though. Just removing the hitstun would be sufficient (assuming the Source-style nade damage is to be implemented).

[Mith]

Noooo don't make it just go right through people! How many times have I laughed my ass off after I threw an he in an eco, just to see it bounce in the back of my mate's head and kill half the team?

Come on! Seriously, don't do that, it's such a cool part of the game. I'm ok with making it do 1 damage though, whatever, as long as it doesn't hitlock you I'm good :D.

[downbad]

yea the random 1hp nade dink kill would be epic.

[wtfpwnage]

1hp & no-armor tb correct

[fragsy]

you get hitlocked of flash/smoke in source too, don't you?

[element13]

It would be so rare that it would happen, and it would add some humor to the game. Instead getting upset over dying, it's just like "fuck... lol, nice throw!".

I'm up for having it in the game! :D

[aston]

It is possible to kill with a flashbang and a smoke in CS:S, if your opponent has 1 hp, and no armor.
To give an idea of how frequently this happen, I'll use myself as an example:

I have played CS:S since the very first ATi coupon beta days, which is August 2004. Now, since then, and probably averaging around 25 hours pr two weeks since, I have only killed someone with a flashbang twice, and have yet to kill someone with a smokegrenade. Also I have never been killed with either flash or fb myself.
(Actual pcw, cws or mixes, not just random pregame where you try to accomplish it together).

It is truly rare to experience, and many players I have played with, have never tried it. Thus it is a great feature to implement, since it causes zero disturbance, just those brief epic moments that you don't forget.

edit: Also grenades hitting a player model, should not stun the player, but it should however bounce of him rather than going thru him. In neither CS nor CS:S is it possible to throw grenades through players, so why should it be in CSP?

[madmax]

o have killed 1player with a smoke it was on a R60(swedish css semipro league) match in the final round in a 3v1 but i failed any way but the demo was just so epic but forgot to backit up so it was deleted when i formated mt harddrive :( :( :(

[scorp]

no, this is just gay.

[hxcguitarist]

no, this is just gay.

Have you ever seen a flashbang/smokegrenade kill? Its funny as fuck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq_Ptb_OjQ4

[element13]

no, this is just gay.

Have you ever seen a flashbang/smokegrenade kill? Its funny as fuck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq_Ptb_OjQ4

LOL. Fragwhore gets shutdown.

It's funny, but I must say... that's a stupid way to die...

[hxcguitarist]

no, this is just gay.

Have you ever seen a flashbang/smokegrenade kill? Its funny as fuck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq_Ptb_OjQ4

LOL. Fragwhore gets shutdown.

It's funny, but I must say... that's a stupid way to die...

And that is why its funny as hell when it happens. It rarely happens, and for it to happen in a match is random as fuck.

[defragen1]

I think the more annoying part of the nades hurting people when hit is it freezes the player. I was playing CS:S the other day and died because a nade hit me, which froze me, which prevented me from running away. It was teh suck.

You mean it hitlocks you for a moment just like a normal shot does? If that really happens, then yeah that's pretty gay imo.
no he meant it landed on top of his head and did that crazy repeating bounce sound

[rcgnz]

It's rare and doesn't affect gameplay.

Add.

I've never even SEEN one ingame, apart from screenshots and frag movies. And I've played for 2 years now.

[dhillon]

should be in the game.. its realistic, with 1hp left you could get your toenail licked and die!!

[deefop]

thats a huge gameplay change it damn well better not be included... you could stop entire eco rushes just by throwing flashes into the opposing team and stopping them all in their tracks. plus if you are in a clutch situation like a 1v2 with 1hp and get killed by a flash you'll throw your monitor through a wall. imagine neo vs heaton and robban or whoever it was in that most famous of 1v2's, instead of clutching he gets hit in the foot with a flash and dies.

thats a poor example but you get the idea, such a big gameplay change is not a good idea at all for competitive play.

[haGisson]

:lol: when i saw the video i was first like "what??? he wasn't even hit by the flash!"

[[EA]]

Yea, I suppose taking the stun out of the flash/smoke nade as well as the not going through the player model would be interesting to to implement. It's up to the dev-team after all. :twisted:

[L33taznn00b]

i think this should be in csp it will add some spice to the game but take out the hitlock effect

[smartin]

http://www.lissgallery.com/todd_goldman/gallery_photos/Smoking_Kills.jpg

[pRopaaNS]

Maybe add what players start coughing in smoke... x{} Anyway i don`t think what it`s possible to inflict damage in reality with a granade, but it should be possible to inflict damage if flash is exploding near to you. Smoke granade doesn`t count, it even doesn`t blow up, it just starts to spread smoke around.

I Gave up smoking 3 month ago! \o/ yeyy

[rcgnz]

Maybe add what players start coughing in smoke... x{} Anyway i don`t think what it`s possible to inflict damage in reality with a granade, but it should be possible to inflict damage if flash is exploding near to you. Smoke granade doesn`t count, it even doesn`t blow up, it just starts to spread smoke around.
theyre talking about when you get hit by the grenade entity itself. im pretty sure if someone threw a smoke grenade at ur face itd be slightly painful let alone 1damage.

[pRopaaNS]

I know, that`s why i said what it shouldn`t be possible to inflict damage that way. Compared to bullet in head or knife in innards, granade can`t do any mortar damage, otherwise it should be possible to kill a person just by trowing something solid at him.

[heyron618]

Like I've said before...
1HP Grenade Kills – I’m not quite sure why people don’t like this. If you can throw a nade that perfect or are lucky enough, I don’t see why you don’t deserve a kill if the enemy only has 1hp.

The idea if nades should slow you down I'd say could go either way (advantage to nader or nadee), but my final decision of nades slowing you down is a resounding NO because of this video clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5OFdpic ... 5&index=17 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5OFdpiczHA&feature=PlayList&p=66078CA48B54B665&index=17)

[pRopaaNS]

I`m not against this, just it doesn`t seems right what something like that can inflict damage, while player can stand >10 glock bullets shot in his leg with meat and bones ripped apart. Just hitting with granade- normally players have a helmlets and armours, even if they haven`t actually brought them... I agree what flashbang could do damage, when it explodes, but... Ok, i give up.. :P

[[EA]]

Like I've said before...
1HP Grenade Kills – I’m not quite sure why people don’t like this. If you can throw a nade that perfect or are lucky enough, I don’t see why you don’t deserve a kill if the enemy only has 1hp.

The idea if nades should slow you down I'd say could go either way (advantage to nader or nadee), but my final decision of nades slowing you down is a resounding NO because of this video clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5OFdpic ... 5&index=17 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5OFdpiczHA&feature=PlayList&p=66078CA48B54B665&index=17)

lol

[danymoreno1]

It Would Be Interesting If That All Of You Guys Know In CS 1.6 If You Throw A Nade It Explodes In Less Than 3 Sec I Think The SG Takes Longer So Why Dont In CSP: ALL OF THE Granades, SG, FB, And The Nade Explodes At The Same TIME!?... But Also What Happens If You Let The Left Button HOLD... The Nade Doesnt Explodes In Your Hands... CHANGE THAT! Just My Opinion Would Make It More Realistic Giving REAL TIME A Safety Lever That You See That Pops Out :)

[downbad]

add claymore mines. +2 sarcastic

[tiger]

It Would Be Interesting If That All Of You Guys Know In CS 1.6 If You Throw A Nade It Explodes In Less Than 3 Sec I Think The SG Takes Longer So Why Dont In CSP: ALL OF THE Granades, SG, FB, And The Nade Explodes At The Same TIME!?... But Also What Happens If You Let The Left Button HOLD... The Nade Doesnt Explodes In Your Hands... CHANGE THAT! Just My Opinion Would Make It More Realistic Giving REAL TIME A Safety Lever That You See That Pops Out :)

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[TUROcKdev]

It Would Be Interesting If That All Of You Guys Know In CS 1.6 If You Throw A Nade It Explodes In Less Than 3 Sec I Think The SG Takes Longer So Why Dont In CSP: ALL OF THE Granades, SG, FB, And The Nade Explodes At The Same TIME!?... But Also What Happens If You Let The Left Button HOLD... The Nade Doesnt Explodes In Your Hands... CHANGE THAT! Just My Opinion Would Make It More Realistic Giving REAL TIME A Safety Lever That You See That Pops Out :)

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[smartin]

Why The Fuck Do Some People Write Like This?

[MaveN]

Who The Fuck Cares? (Except Of You)

[tiger]

Why The Fuck Do Some People Write Like This?

Maybe they're trying to be 'special' like that guy who used to write in bold.