csp_assail

[k1no]

So this is what I've got so far.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3126/cspassail10000.jpg

Let me know what you guys think. :)

[G4MR]

Looks like the outside of T spawn right before you go into B tun's on dust2. Not sure why :P

[k1no]

I can see that haha

[k1no]

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/812/cspassail10001.jpg

Quick update, I know its a bit dark.

[mikemhz]

looks good keep it up.

[k1no]

Thanks, any criticism?

[Sloke]

no dust-textures

[k1no]

lol little late for that

[mikemhz]

i cant really see that well but it looks like it's got a good base of brushwork. With a bit of detail it would look pretty cool.
keep playing with the lighting. the sky list on valve developer community gives you good examples to play with. check out tutorials on fog too, it can make a map look pro.

also do you know how to make your stairs use less resources?

http://i47.tinypic.com/50i3bt.png
http://i46.tinypic.com/8x4qqc.png
http://i47.tinypic.com/28l7wxc.png

EDIT: this also gets rid of the bumpy feeling of the stairs.

[k1no]

I dont think that would look very good on a dust kind of map though, dont you think?

[mikemhz]

I dont think that would look very good on a dust kind of map though, dont you think?
a light brown fog will look like dust. very faint. it's not a must though.

[k1no]

nah I meant those kind of stairs

[j0lt]

nah I meant those kind of stairs

They work and look exactly like normal stairs but are much more optimal for when VIS does its calculations.

[n69ky]

woah thx, gonna do that next time :P

[k1no]

Oh I see what you mean, I wasn't seeing the clipped slope part.

[mikemhz]

By the way, don't make the slope a func_detail... only the steps.

But only worry about that if your steps are sealing the level - or the lighting doesn't look right because the stairs are func_detail.

[k1no]

http://www.fpsbanana.com/wips/screens/3 ... 35510a.jpg (http://www.fpsbanana.com/wips/screens/35510?img=http://sierra.fpsbanana.com/ss/wips/35510a.jpg)

I'll be uploading pics and news here.

[k1no]

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8235/89331130.jpg

Alot of work to be done, but an overview of the map.

[eveo]

im liking the triple bombsite thing as oppose to just standard a and b, adds a whole new factor of rage.

[k1no]

triple bombsite lol?

[no0ne]

im liking the triple bombsite thing as oppose to just standard a and b, adds a whole new factor of rage.

that's CT :p the C and T are just split a little.

[k1no]

lol

[no0ne]

By the way, don't make the slope a func_detail... only the steps.

But only worry about that if your steps are sealing the level - or the lighting doesn't look right because the stairs are func_detail.

What would you make the slope as then? If not func_detail that is.

[k1no]

New images:

Overview:

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6771/cspassailb20000.jpg

A:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2607/cspassailb20001.jpg

CT:

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/121/cspassailb20002.jpg

B:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1048/cspassailb20003.jpg

I'm open to any suggestions : )

[Quindoo]

I suggest you put a huge skybox around your map, insert an light_environment, compile again and post some new screenshots with better lightning. No light is fugly :D Anyway, I think you could bring more depth to certain walls etc, it looks a bit plain atm.

[SpikeMeister]

Looks about ready to playtest if you chuck in (as previously mentioned) a light_env

[k1no]

I suggest you put a huge skybox around your map, insert an light_environment, compile again and post some new screenshots with better lightning. No light is fugly :D Anyway, I think you could bring more depth to certain walls etc, it looks a bit plain atm.

Yeah its supposed to be plain, I was just trying to show off the layout

[SirK]

you really have to use nodraw... i cant see one nodraw texture in your map...

[TUROcKdev]

a newbe level designer? :D or a bad one? :D

[k1no]

This is only my second source map so yeah im kind of a newbie, what is nodraw? : X

[k1no]

also to make a ladder is it still func_ladder?

[TUROcKdev]

no .___. brush ladder or .mdl ladder with a ladderbrush near the other brush or .mdl but please read/watch some tutorials before creating a de_ map -.- fy and aim maps are easier for newB :lol:

[k1no]

no .___. brush ladder or .mdl ladder with a ladderbrush near the other brush or .mdl but please read/watch some tutorials before creating a de_ map -.- fy and aim maps are easier for newB :lol:

ive made plenty of maps just not for source big guy

[SirK]

nodraw is a texture that says the engine that this face of a brush should not be drawn. optimizing thing.
oh and btw dont listen to turock xD
you can make it his way with a ladder brush (quite easy) but you can turn every brush to a func_ladder entity^^

[TUROcKdev]

nodraw is a texture that says the engine that this face of a brush should not be drawn. optimizing thing.
oh and btw dont listen to turock xD
you can make it his way with a ladder brush (quite easy) but you can turn every brush to a func_ladder entity^^

:P :lol:

[Redstar]

a newbe level designer? or a bad one?


no .___. brush ladder or .mdl ladder with a ladderbrush near the other brush or .mdl but please read/watch some tutorials before creating a de_ map -.- fy and aim maps are easier for newB :lol:

It's up to him to make the type of map he wants

ps: turock, you should follow your own advice before giving him some :>

[TUROcKdev]

wth ? :D I use the nodraw texture for every block I create and after that I add the base textures ;)

[SirK]

i think thats not what cashed was trying to say xD

before creating a de_ map -.- fy and aim maps are easier for newB :lol:

[mang]

i think thats not what cashed was trying to say xDExcept it was Redstar - there are two mappers with green forum names nowadays. :P

[SirK]

oooops xD
yeah its cause hes a dev now, im still not used to it xD

[pinter]

The triple bombsite idea opens up a new dimension of CS logic. If you're CT and in bombsite B and hear "Bomb has been planted" you cant for sure know if its in A, because it could be at C! bwa! its like that old school map de_foption... was that what it was called? Oh well, CSP is the new frontier so lets RAGE it out with THREE! yeeehaw!

[n69ky]

but the bombtime would have to be increased or the distances from A to C (when checking B on the way) should be the same.

[k1no]

yeah but its not a triple bombsite lol

[mang]

yeah but its not a triple bombsite lolI think it is now. The mob has spoken. :P

[Lordearon]

ok, it's not, but let's start a new thread on triple bombsites and possible pros/cons

Here's the thread: http://cspromod.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3382

[k1no]

haha once again this is my second map, i dont wanna do anything too different yet. but i think its a good idea

[Lordearon]

Yeah, I also think you should keep assail with 2 bombspots as it is, keep it up!

[k1no]

T spawn looks really bland and un-original. Anyone have any suggestions to make this better?

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/329/cspassailb80004.jpg

[j0lt]

Displacements, lighting, a big tree or 2, crates and or barrels, some raised sections (with ramps) leading up to doorways in the wall.

[pinter]

Wherever the player is standing in the picture, make that area lower in elevation from where the door is and add a small hill with a built in stairway, or something similar. Pretty much, everything j0lt just said. :D

[k1no]

Still more to do but what do you think of these fences.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1035/cspassailb90001.jpg

I kinda like them but I also feel like im ranglein some cattle.

[k1no]

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/787/cspassailb90006.jpg

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1605/cspassailb90005.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4713/cspassailb90004.jpg

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8933/cspassailb90003.jpg

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7248/cspassailb90002.jpg

[k1no]

[youtube:148s97ew]ywtdTwC0MQ8[/youtube:148s97ew]

[smilesger]

did you mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywtdTwC0MQ8

? xD

[k1no]

hah yeah i did acutally. thats really old though.

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/130336

thats newest version