CSP Beta 1.05 Animation Progress Video

[Redstar]

http://cspromod.com/images/media/animation_video_banner.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBOygU-_R8)

Perhaps the hottest topic of discussion with regards to CSP Beta 1.04 has been a feature that's actually not in 1.04 - the upcoming model and animation fixes to be released in Beta 1.05. Many have said that they just don't know how to judge the feel of CSPromod with the Source models in there, and have been asking where exactly we are in the process of implementing the new models and animations.

Well, thanks to our brilliant animator http://cspromod.com/images/flags/uk.gif Matt "mazzer" Maslen, we're able to give everyone a window into our progress with the new 1.6-style models and animations. Take a look at the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBOygU-_R8) - we feel that it speaks for itself, and we hope that everyone likes the progress so far!


http://cspromod.com/images/csp_news_foot_signature.png

[Mith]

Well that's cool :D

[hxcguitarist]

EDIT *Never mind!*

Gonna watch this now :)

[theRAshow]

wow nice!

[linkfik]

AWESOME!!!

[s0ced]

When do you release 1.05 ??? AWESOME XDD

[tiger]

Wow so smooth! Great job mazzer!

[n69ky]

LOVE IT!

[Nightbox]

Nice one

[hxcguitarist]

Nerdgasm O_O

Great update! I cannot wait for this haha

[Redstar]

Updated first post with the youtube link, enjoy!

[BGS]

WOWOWOOW

[n69ky]

my brother just watched it and sait: "WTF? they realy just could've used cs1.6 models"
and i said. THATS THE POINT of those models/animations -.-

[Matz]

gj guys, but what about the duckjump? will you reply us? :)

[element13]

That looks so awesome!

[dezkit]

Amazing.

Will there be counter-strike 1.6 weapon models?
An option will suffice.

[qUINZIe]

Looks very good, just don't forget the death animations and all the other aspect's of the 1.6 animation content.

And you really should finish some new 1.6 good looking weapon models in the 1.05 beta, take your time now, gj.

NINJA_EDIT: Just saw the "One more thing..." amazing death animation, looking forward to it, just make sure that the models aren't as tall as the CSS ones.

[linkfik]

One question..After headshot animation ragdoll is ON ?
Possible hit and falling for example a roof with the help ragdoll?

[jasofisle]

yah here it comes!

hope u will come up with the new models as fast as possible, because it looks marvelous! :)

will it be possible to do the "russenduck" as we germans call or you may "double duck" with the new models?

im sooo used to doing it, that my gameplay suffers hard under the source models and btw the death animations of the source models are growse! :D

but tbh the beta 1.04 is really great work! :)

[bringerofwar]

Looks awesome! Great job!

[LiqzZ]

AWESOME.

Promod <3

[DooM49]

Looks awesome, my only concern is if the knee is going to stay up like that after the headshot animation is complete

[Tomos]

Looks very good, just don't forget the death animations and all the other aspect's of the 1.6 animation content.

And you really should finish some new 1.6 good looking weapon models in the 1.05 beta, take your time now, gj.
You may have missed it but at the end (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBOygU-_R8#t=1m28s), there's a death animation, after it looks like it has finished.

Anyway, the animations look excellent!

[m1lleMiniPro]

going to aim like cs 1.6 ??

[ZeroKiller]

Omfg, absolutely sploosh-tastic. I can't wait!

[ovi]

wahahaha, this is better than 1.04 release itself... sorry, but this is awe... wait for it.....
some!

err i mean legendary .. holy christ! GREAT WORK!

[alba]

Looks awesome, my only concern is if the knee is going to stay up like that after the headshot animation is complete

The HS animation is still a work in progress. Mazzer isn't quite happy about it just yet ;)

[lmighty]

my brother just watched it and sait: "WTF? they realy just could've used cs1.6 models"
and i said. THATS THE POINT of those models/animations -.-
He probably said that because they look as if they're straight out of 1.6, which isn't a compliment. The models should be better looking in csp, as it's about improving the graphics right? Hope they keep in the ragdoll after the 'headshot animation'.

Quite like the rest of csp actually, alot better then expected. But then again, I wasn't expecting much.

[MaveN]

...one more thing!

hahahaha!!!! gewd j0b

[linkfik]

ragdoll after the 'headshot animation' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[n69ky]

sorry... he did mean the animations
he said:

its unrealistic the upper body doesn't move.
the model itselfe is fine.

[eibi]

Beautiful! :)

[Cole]

Oh man, I almost came posting "DEATH ANIM PLZ!!!!!!!!!!"

I have a raging hardon.

[qUINZIe]

Looks very good, just don't forget the death animations and all the other aspect's of the 1.6 animation content.

And you really should finish some new 1.6 good looking weapon models in the 1.05 beta, take your time now, gj.
You may have missed it but at the end (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBOygU-_R8#t=1m28s), there's a death animation, after it looks like it has finished.

Anyway, the animations look excellent!

Yeah, me and allot of other people on vent all missed it, bad idea to make the video that way. :P

[Sumalenin]

Very Nice!
Make your Work! Thats Fine!

[Tomos]

Yeah, me and allot of other people on vent all missed it, bad idea to make the video that way. :P
Yeah, I missed it the first time too, I just left it open in a tab and heard it. I can see why they did it, given how excited everyone is about death animations but it would've been nice if it was before the copyright information.

[drosalion]

wow get these into the game IMMEDIATELY that was awesome

the actual model itself is perfect, i was a bit worried when i saw screenshots of it ages ago caus it looked a bit weird but it was hard to tell in the default standing position - in motion its perfect.

crouching is like.. literally absolutely perfect
running is awesome, walking looks a tiny tiny bit off but its still great
the death needs a _tiny_ bit of work but if its not complete then fair enough!

awesome stuff mazzer!

[Fokz]

Quite impressive. its a pitty only one model was presented, I would like to see the T one animated too even If they are animated in the same way ;d

Now it need a decent blood effect for headshot and you are done (this one is really poor, even CSS is better than CSP one ;/)

I just hope now you will do SMALL updates to the game, and much more regular so for me 1.05 should be some minor changes and bug fixes (if any will be revaled) and this models and you can procceed with 1.06 ;D

[Ch1ppy]

its real? more hs animations or only one ?

[pablo]

Looks great. My only suggestions are that both legs lie flat after the animation, and that after the guy his the ground, his leg twitches. I loved the twitch :D

[tgchan]

looks stunning!

[menace]

This looks awesome. Keep up the good work. Definitely looking forward to 1.05 after that video.

[pedrao]

wowww nice work guys !!!

[MCkubbe]

Looks awesome, my only concern is if the knee is going to stay up like that after the headshot animation is complete

The HS animation is still a work in progress. Mazzer isn't quite happy about it just yet ;)

And I know what that is - the hands are shakin' witch is stupid - after the player get the headshot, he is dead, the only reason they make the hands straight in backward-jump shot animation in 1.6, is that the CT's have elbow protectors, and if you watched many cs movies, you'll notice that after the energy throw it opposite the shot, from waist his upper body slowly fall down and make pottato-bag drop .

[cryeR]

n1 ! BUT Jump Animation plox

[esk]

It looks amazing! Great work so far Mazzer ;)

[cure]

So glad to see this!
Good work, those models will indeed change your feel in the game. It's too much source as it is now.
Looking forward to 1.05 but still happy with the 1.04 release. Just wanted to say thanks to the cspteam!

[j0lt]

These look great.

[alx000]

PLEASE MAKE THEM SMALLER

[Mudrich]

Those are absolutely amazing!

[Chroma]

well done :)

[y33]

I hope the models when they do their death animations, they lay back but then ease into a ragdoll. will add more modern gfx to the game. i wuv seeing bodies fly from my nades.

[esk]

PLEASE MAKE THEM SMALLER
lol dude their 1.6 size in the video... :|

[Fokz]

I hope the models when they do their death animations, they lay back but then ease into a ragdoll. will add more modern gfx to the game. i wuv seeing bodies fly from my nades.

+1 go into ragdoll after animation.

[alx000]

PLEASE MAKE THEM SMALLER
lol dude their 1.6 size in the video... :|

that's what we want
=DDD

[downbad]

the shoulders need to move at least a little bit. He looks too stiff up top.

[Improved]

Think I came abit, that's how good it is.

And btw, awsome work on the 1.04 beta, it's bloody awsome so far. Now time for some skirmish!

Thanks lads, appreciate your hard work.

//Improved

[Winsane]

Hahaha, <3 the way you presented the headshot backflip animation :D You guys are awesome!

[hbi]

fuckin sweet i thought it would be like usual csp not talk about new things like this but after playin 1.04 its sweet and all thats missing is models and maybe a few bugs but fuck its better than source is without zblock

[fliq]

wow...amazing!

[Krotki91]

Mention in weapons best too sound on 1.6

[perfypoo]

sexual.

[bryaNNN]

they look good but the back when hes walking needs to be hunched more he looks like a straight bored instead of hunched, just look at the 1.6 walk animation

[[EA]]

Walking looks kinda weird in my opinion...

Maybe I need a new prescription for my glasses.

[Merdiso]

It doesn't matter how looks, IT DOES MATTER HOW FEELS, and the 1.6 animations FEELS GOOD, unlike Source's.
That's the reason BETA 1.04 is not so good like 1.6, though.

[Squaresuf]

Awesome "death animation" :O
gogo 1.05 !! ^^

[dunadan]

Can't wait for the 1.05, Amazing work guys.

[haGisson]

one word: awesome!

can't wait :)

[disPlay]

Just like haGisson said awesome! Great work Matt.

[deCeption]

*snip* The models should be better looking in csp, as it's about improving the graphics right? *snip*
This.

[1nfern0]

I'm curious to know how to animation process works.

Once you have constructed the skeletal animation can you simply copy and paste over different models? Or do you have to individually animate each model?

Also, is alba designing the models or is mazzer?

[deCeption]

I'm curious to know how to animation process works.

Once you have constructed the skeletal animation can you simply copy and paste over different models? Or do you have to individually animate each model?

Also, is alba designing the models or is mazzer?
I thought that's how it would pretty much be done, considering the fact that the models should be the same size and all. If not, then it would require minimal animation edits.

[rvT]

Holy Sh!t that's lookin awesome! HS animation is brilliant! ;D Hope you guys release 1.05 quite fast.

[Masternoob]

*fapfapfap*

[xoinkx]

now 1.6 gun sounds and it rocks!

[jonasd]

<3 the ending

[elzon]

Looking good! and thanks for uploading in HD this time too

[ziMeX]

Its hard when u plays css - i have never played cs 1,6 -

There should have been bots 2 - But it is verry nice q:

[yuri]

The movement looks ABSOLUTELY SMOOTH which is totally awesome :)
HS anim is great too. Only the body fly distance seemed a bit short for me - its hard to compare distances in "the white box" ...

[NortproN]

absolutelu awesome

hope you make alternatives for having the knee up can get akward with 5 guys next to each others with the same knee up :D

[lmighty]

MOD EDIT: Woops sorry, I wanted to answer you but edited your post instead, apologize.

[linkfik]

yep...ragdoll whille falling = awesome feel

[alba]

And the animations just don't look as smooth as they do in css.

I strongly disagree there.

FYI the player models are being tweaked right now since the current one we have aren't bump mapped yet. The tweaks and update will fix that as well as bringing a few improvements.

[mehlano]

just perfect! :)

Thank you for that hard work... and keep on! <3

[argh]

The video gave me the chills at the end, so you obviously did a good job making this movie. :)

Have to wait for the models+animations before i judge the game though.

[pabloska]

YEAH COME ON BABY

[lmighty]

And the animations just don't look as smooth as they do in css.

I strongly disagree there.

FYI the player models are being tweaked right now since the current one we have aren't bump mapped yet. The tweaks and update will fix that as well as bringing a few improvements.

Hmm well I guess we'll just have to wait and see again. I mean the 1.04 release definitely was alot better then I expected, although my expectations were pretty low :p. But if this game needs these models to get the 1.6 players to switch, I won't really care.

Didnt think I'd be saying this, but if everyone would just give it a chance for a while.. this could turn into something :p

[p0nz]

AWESOME!

[stoelpoot]

Is there any idea of when 1.05 shall be released?

[xtobix]

now 1.6 gun sounds and it rocks!

if you own cs1.6 on steam you can download gcfscape, extract your 1.6 weapon sounds and overwrite your csp weapon sounds with the cs1.6 ones.

bout the topic:
hot update. love all the animations, except the upstanding knee in hs animation.
hit-animation and jump animation are very important as well.. hope to see that ones soon.

good job with b1.04! keep it up.

[b1ue]

awesome.. <3!!

[Sn00p]

Looks very natural. great job!

[tiger]

Is there any idea of when 1.05 shall be released?

mike said next update in 2010 on vent

[tmaven]

i hope you will add some NON-VIOLENCE type, im still closing my eyes during killing



haha, great animation! :) Give me seal one! :D

[Chris]

The animations look great!
But there are like 200-300 animations in 1,6 right?
I'd like to know how many you have already ^^
I just wanna play with them so bad :(

[TheBestJB]

Now it's so hard for us to wait the next beta. Please make it fast ! The world need it (before 21/12/12)

[kimo]

AWESOME! Really great idea!

[haden]

the video looks just awesome! the headshot animation is really good

ragdoll physics while falling would be awesome ;-)

[Sumalenin]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2376 (http://cspromod.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2376)

[scorp]

amazing. the headshot animation is gold.

[iamanarki]

Very nice, this is what im most waitin for in promod lol, dont forget about the way they look as the player models side strafes while look in another direction as its different to the way the css models do it (ofcourse u obviously know this but i just like to make sure lol)

[BANCi]

While in CS 1.6 I hear where the sounds come from exactly, in CSP the sounds are terrible... "box" sounds come from everywhere and I donno where should I aim at :( If you will fix it whit this animation and models part it will be a really awesome game and the pros will be play with CSpromod. [ scales, sounds, animation, models - the no.1 priority thnigs at the moment. every other things r not so important :) ]

GJ!

[ahLx]

i hope you will add some NON-VIOLENCE type, im still closing my eyes during killing



haha, great animation! :) Give me seal one! :D

i hate those ppl shooting the corpses ... the delted this quake3 feature in quake live as well!

[msn]

Will you remake the awp weapon model? personally i love the 1.6 model ;p this one from css looks like it has been used in II world's war : F

[Mazzer]

Thx for all comments, none of this is set in stone and changes will be made if we feel its neccessary, whether that is for the version in which they are implemented or as an ongoing development depending on the time. In terms of the strafing that has been mentioned by some people, this http://mazzer.cspromod.com/westrun.jpg screenshot was posted on twitter a month or so ago, it will answer the question of whether it will work 1.6 or css style

[atomx]

OMG I love
It's like in 1.6
Great work

[shinnyo]

wow~~ so nice !!~GJ
i cant wait !

[TaI7aK]

I delighted!

[DemoNMorph]

WOWWWOWWWWOWWW

LOL LOL LOL

This is nicccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,awesome,it's ggggrrrreeeeaaaatttt ! ! ! :o :o :o

I waiting for this,keep it good guys!Thank You!I LOVE YOUUUU ! :D

[cspmustbegood]

WOW..."and one more thing", totally epic :o
Nice animations, looking forward to do some HS 8-)

[satzeN]

really awesome!

[Fokz]

Thx for all comments, none of this is set in stone and changes will be made if we feel its neccessary, whether that is for the version in which they are implemented or as an ongoing development depending on the time. In terms of the strafing that has been mentioned by some people, this http://mazzer.cspromod.com/westrun.jpg screenshot was posted on twitter a month or so ago, it will answer the question of whether it will work 1.6 or css style

Will the headshot animation go into ragdoll when it finishes ? To be even more realistic... ;>

[oolz]

This looks awesome. =) GJ Mazzer.

[jeremy14]

and animation headshot ? :P

[tiger]

and animation headshot ? :P

Watch it till the end...

[jeremy14]

O sorry
It's very good
hard work :P

[smartin]

Making these screenshots easily accessible for new people:

http://mazzer.cspromod.com/eastrun.jpg
http://mazzer.cspromod.com/westrun.jpg

[N0vA]

nice job!

how about a bunnyhop animation? :P

[MaveN]

how about a bunnyhop animation? :P
hmm.. u want that the player hold his hands over his head? :) that would make him look like a bunny

[Juu]

Good job guys :D Can't wait the 1.05 !

[Bues]

Lookin good guys, keep it up! I'm incredibly impressed with CSP and really hope it takes over the CSS and 1.6 Communities and unites us together for bigger leagues and more LANs.

Any rough release date for 1.05? CSP just needs a little polishing aside from the models and it should be good to go for competitive play imo.

EMPYREAN ` Ghost #team-empyrean

[burt]

Can't wait for these, I hate those source models, they all have a hump on the back :q
They seem so much smaller than the 1.6 ones, grrr!

[Stoki]

its over 9000!

[PointBlank81]

pretty coool...

the only thing that needs to be fixed now are the sound..
cant really understand where i get haxxed from or where players are around me like i do in 1.6 :)

[Chris]

how about a bunnyhop animation? :P
hmm.. u want that the player hold his hands over his head? :) that would make him look like a bunny

Hahah awesome :D

[mikemhz]

Can't wait for these, I hate those source models, they all have a hump on the back :q
They seem so much smaller than the 1.6 ones, grrr!
the CS:S models are actually bigger...

[nokeer]

awesome!

[KurEcaK]

the game is really cool, GJ
but it need many improves:
granades are too slow and imbalanced..(flash is weak,he granade imba)
dynamic recoil like in 1.6
etc.

[KurEcaK]

mby get some pro players like zonic,carn,heaton to help improve the game :)
but really great job

[Baltimoron]

I think when the model gets headshot he should give the middle finger as he flys back. lol jk

But one thing that I miss about 1.6 is when a leet krew talks on his mic his mouth opens.

[majers]

Hey i got a sneak preview of the new csp grenade models :D

http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hello-kitty-hand-grenade.jpg

[ZeroKiller]

i lol'd

[Mith]

Hey i got a sneak preview of the new csp grenade models :D

http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hello-kitty-hand-grenade.jpg

PUT THESE IN NOW

OR AT LEAST ALLOW THEM IN SV_PURE SERVERS

[jayjay07]

I can not wait to for this update!
I'm an avid 1.6 fan who has been playing CS since '01. I HATED source with a passion and quit CS almost two years ago cause of the transition. I went into CSP with my doubts but mostly with an open-mind. I think with this next update that it will definately unite alot of the 1.6 and source community together. =)

[Krotki91]

recoil of 1.6 would be better than what is now. because you can not kill the enemy and secondly, encourag more people to play such recoil...

[thompaz]

Does anyone know what is happening with the sounds?
I think once the 1.6 models and animations are added it will be a very good game however, I still have major problems with the sounds.
Footsteps are too quiet and whats with the cheesy "PWWAHWWWWMMM" sounds everywhere from flying bullets???
Sounds like some cheesy Western. It can't be that hard just to port the WAV files over from 1.6.

Do we know if they are actually working on changing the sounds???

I know it sounds like I'm flaming the game but i'm not... I actually think it is really promising :)

[Fric]

Man, I thought that 1.6 flashbangs was easy to avoid, but they last like forever in this beta, FOREVER, Cant see shit, cant hear shit, cant do nothing, WTB source flash!

[edgar]

take off "the ostrich-movement" too! Keep moving!

[alba]

Man, I thought that 1.6 flashbangs was easy to avoid, but they last like forever in this beta, FOREVER, Cant see shit, cant hear shit, cant do nothing, WTB source flash!

Guess you're having the ATI problem (http://cspromod.com/community/thread/9/2215/SOLUTION-INTENSE-flashbangs-issue-on-ATI-cards)?

[phreaK]

Everyone complains about the flashes, I dont see a problem with them.

[Krotki91]

and when will beta 1.05??

[thompaz]

2012

[NortproN]

got good pc (2009) and nvidia drivers, i figured replicating them somehow wouldn't be hard to do but they do last seeeriosly way too long.

[linkfik]

and when will beta 1.05??
i think 1-2 years :(

[alba]

2012
Wrong.



and when will beta 1.05??
i think 1-2 years :(
Wrong.

Do you really believe we can go so long without an update? No. We worked on this game in the back for two years so we wouldn't have people bashing us constantly because of the previous releases. That way we could work peacefully on the mod and come out with it when we were happy with it like we have done now.

If you think the next update is coming out in years, I don't know what to tell you.

[Ruffe]

alba: I hope that this good response from forums and the players make you work harder and make the new update in a short future!

I got two questions wich i have'nt got any answers about, Are u going to still tweak the recoil of the ak and colt?

And how are u going to fix the duckdelay without make it possible to "russianwalk"?

Best Regards Ruffe!

[cozmoz]

2012
Wrong.



and when will beta 1.05??
i think 1-2 years :(
Wrong.

Do you really believe we can go so long without an update? No. We worked on this game in the back for two years so we wouldn't have people bashing us constantly because of the previous releases. That way we could work peacefully on the mod and come out with it when we were happy with it like we have done now.

If you think the next update is coming out in years, I don't know what to tell you.


So alba it's more like 2-3 months? Or is it even less? :) I love what you guys have done so far ;)

[Krotki91]

I think that comes out later this year, yet only to give recoil cs 1.6 and model player's animation :D

[fliq]

i hope it's soon, this game is the shit

[LiqzZ]

2012
Wrong.



and when will beta 1.05??
i think 1-2 years :(
Wrong.

Do you really believe we can go so long without an update? No. We worked on this game in the back for two years so we wouldn't have people bashing us constantly because of the previous releases. That way we could work peacefully on the mod and come out with it when we were happy with it like we have done now.

If you think the next update is coming out in years, I don't know what to tell you.

People are so interested in promod right now, take this opportunity and keep the updates flowing try get the next BETA out ASAP and the community will be right behind you :D

[DeZaXaT]

nice :D

[visceral]

look's amazing!! good job

[pr0ximity]

People are so interested in promod right now, take this opportunity and keep the updates flowing try get the next BETA out ASAP and the community will be right behind you :D

I'd say this would be a good idea to do, and I'm guessing it's on all of the devs minds anyways.

[pursuitpr]

This is a really low priority fix only just comparing the space on mid, map D2.

1.6-CSpromod. sidebyside
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9686/16promodsidebyside.jpg

[menace]

We're all hoping to it out within the next couple of monthes, but I'd rather have a good, less buggy release than have a rushed project which will make people bitch even more.

[Kryptonite]

niceeee videoo amazing! :D

go go go!

[Nook001]

great but when it leaves the new version? xD :D

[mateckz]

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[NortproN]

This is a really low priority fix only just comparing the space on mid, map D2.

1.6-CSpromod. sidebyside
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9686/16promodsidebyside.jpg

i'm sure the player models will fix it (to some extent)

a bigger problem imo is that you can throw a smoke over that all the way to middle doors

[ahLx]

2012
Wrong.



and when will beta 1.05??
i think 1-2 years :(
Wrong.

Do you really believe we can go so long without an update? No. We worked on this game in the back for two years so we wouldn't have people bashing us constantly because of the previous releases. That way we could work peacefully on the mod and come out with it when we were happy with it like we have done now.

If you think the next update is coming out in years, I don't know what to tell you.

and you failed HARD :D

[ahLx]

This is a really low priority fix only just comparing the space on mid, map D2.

1.6-CSpromod. sidebyside
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9686/16promodsidebyside.jpg

i'm sure the player models will fix it (to some extent)

a bigger problem imo is that you can throw a smoke over that all the way to middle doors


compare the hut in front of long... its like :o

[steNz]

This is a really low priority fix only just comparing the space on mid, map D2.

1.6-CSpromod. sidebyside
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9686/16promodsidebyside.jpg

i'm sure the player models will fix it (to some extent)

a bigger problem imo is that you can throw a smoke over that all the way to middle doors


compare the hut in front of long... its like :o


isnt it because of models height ? i think when 1.05 will be released it will be different ;)

[Fr0stY]

That's just amazing. Great work!

And for all that are saying, the shoulders should move, the body should move, etc... The Source engine is old and it can't display the animations so realistically because the old havok physics can't handle that. However Euphoria can, but that's a whole new physics technology. That's about all they'll get out of Source physics, it simply can't do more than that.

[Fokz]

because the old havok physics can't handle that. However Euphoria can, but that's a whole new physics technology

You don't know what you are talking about, sorry.

The problem with realism is that CSP teams has no tools, they are using pure skill of the animator and his imagination of the body movement, if they had a possibility to do something like motion capturing for this single one animation and a guy flying to his back you would jizz in your pants.

It is fixed joint animation probably so havoc or euphoria have nothing to do here. If those were 100% ragdoll then OK

[Mazzer]

The idea behind the movement in csp is to bring the feel of 1.6 rather than how it is now using the source anims. One of the things that was needed was to dumb down the large amount of movement currently in the source anims. Maybe i have taken that too far, and i may have to add more movement in the upper but still trying to maintain a solid aim. Whether those changes will be made before the new anims appear in the release, i dont yet know. But they can always be updated even once in the game. Its good to see ppls comments and i can make changes where i agree and think a change is worthy. In terms of the use of mocap or endorphin or whatever, cs 1.6 and source are not realistic tactical shooters; Like some that exist on the market where movements mimic special forces down to the tiniest etc etc

[thompaz]

We don't want realistic. We want the look and feel of 1.6.
no cheesy side strafing from source.
we want the models to pivote at the hips insted of the whole model turning ie top half looking left or right while the legs continue foward.

Also this needs to be completed ASAP as right now the game still feels like source (to a certain degree)
The new movement and recoild patterns in CSP are great but because what we are seeing is source animations it's like all your hard work is being undermimed.... thats my honnest thoughts.

[linkfik]

I think, it is better to make death animation lasted to steam of the seconds, all rest of time for that that the model has fallen, it is necessary to give ragdoll physics. I think the best variant!!! And to mine the most effective.
Sorry for my bad english :)

[fleafunk]

The idea behind the movement in csp is to bring the feel of 1.6 rather than how it is now using the source anims. One of the things that was needed was to dumb down the large amount of movement currently in the source anims. Maybe i have taken that too far, and i may have to add more movement in the upper but still trying to maintain a solid aim. Whether those changes will be made before the new anims appear in the release, i dont yet know. But they can always be updated even once in the game. Its good to see ppls comments and i can make changes where i agree and think a change is worthy. In terms of the use of mocap or endorphin or whatever, cs 1.6 and source are not realistic tactical shooters; Like some that exist on the market where movements mimic special forces down to the tiniest etc etc

I dont think there will be necessary to add more movement in the upper, when people moves their crosshairs it will give movements there anyways.

[Krotki91]

but we want recoild of 1.6

[Gvidas]

Need recoild and movement of 1.6! And the game will be perfect :>

[DemoNMorph]

Recoil,models and the movement of the Counter-Strike 1.6 in addition with some realystic enviroment will make an awesome CSP that will be the new Counter-Strike...We will have the models...the exact feeling,but all in a new,amazing enviroment :).
I think will be great... :mrgreen:

[Merdiso]

Hehe, someone from Romania here at last =)).
By the way, +1.

[Fr0stY]

because the old havok physics can't handle that. However Euphoria can, but that's a whole new physics technology

You don't know what you are talking about, sorry.

The problem with realism is that CSP teams has no tools, they are using pure skill of the animator and his imagination of the body movement, if they had a possibility to do something like motion capturing for this single one animation and a guy flying to his back you would jizz in your pants.

It is fixed joint animation probably so havoc or euphoria have nothing to do here. If those were 100% ragdoll then OK

Source engine uses havok physics and ragdoll physics was created by havok. It can't be done differently...

[Sage]

@Merdiso ai uitat de mine :))
+1

[Power]

hahah, very nice, also when shoot by small gut ,the animation, when jupm the animatiion, when jump down from high place

[n69ky]

am i the only one who see this?

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9686/16promodsidebyside.jpg

[mang]

am i the only one who see this?Nope, I believe I've seen that mentioned a couple of times. :P

[tiger]

@n69ky, ted said that it'll be fixed when the new player models are in.

[n69ky]

im not complaining i am saying the arch should look like the red circel i've drawn, when the new playermodels are in.

and yeah, i think, when 1.6 viewheigh is in, there will be some little high changes, so some parts matches 1.6 even more than now...

[tiger]

In 1.6 you can jump and stand on the left corner, would be nice if you could do that in CSP too ^^

I think that when the player models are in things like the size of the window in the hut (nuke) should be reduced to match the 1.6 one.

[sp3ctr0]

Excelent!! Looking forward to the new release soon.

[Krotki91]

recoil will is the same as in 1.6 or not?

[linkfik]

look this video cs 1.6 vs cspromod 1.04 beta recoil comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubUogOtbNlE

[Krotki91]

frankly, when the game is different... ie if you're on the run is different than in 1.6

[BORRNE]

Why did you leave it will look great <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uckrSb0O ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uckrSb0O8JQ&feature=related)
and now the game is still very similar like Counter-Strike Source
Please Spend in 1.05 just as you have made in a video,and then all play CSPROMOD <3

Please CSPROMOD team :)

Edited

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uckrSb0O ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uckrSb0O8JQ&feature=related)
and you have already been created in 2006 csp_nuke in the video look more beautiful than the current csp_nuke You currently perfecting 4 years Counter-Strike Source, I think 2006 was the best option CSPROMOD, seeing this video is very disappointed in the current CSPROMOD.

but anyway good luck...

[Krotki91]

I agree with that, just as the dust2 This is better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9XDg1jgGxU

[atomx]

CSP 1.05 will be released before 19/02/10

*In this thread, I make up bullshit release date even if I know nothing of what's going on*
I said it because on the ESL website i saw it:

CSPromod 5on5 Opening Cup Beta 1.05
Arbre de tournoi:

MatchID 17292025
Date du match Vendredi, 19/02/10 21:00
Calculer 19/02/10 21:00

[ayck]

Deamn, just saw animation and yeah that's what I'm talking about. Great Work mazzer, keep in the same way !

[styrcu]

and you have already been created in 2006 csp_nuke in the video look more beautiful than the current csp_nuke You currently perfecting 4 years Counter-Strike Source, I think 2006 was the best option CSPROMOD, seeing this video is very disappointed in the current CSPROMOD.
That may be a matter of opinion, but I find the current nuke waaay better.

And you know they aren't perfecting css right, csp has been coded from scratch except for the source engine itself. They also can't just copy models and textures from 1.6 for release like in that old preview video due to copyright issues.

Ontopic: great job on the animation so far, looking forward to 1.05 :)

[Trawi]

a think that this will be a PRO GAME :-) GOOD LUCK men

[elzon]

CSPromod 1.05 will be realesed before the 19/02/2010

And you're saying this based upon...?

[alba]

He just made it up.

[Krotki91]

I noticed that climbing the ladder is not the same as in 1.6. You can do this in version 1.05?

[Chris]

Nice edit on atomx :D

[BORRNE]

csp_dust2 (http://tinyurl.com/yjv3pfb)
T spawn (http://tinyurl.com/yly2yhu)
csp_nuke field (http://tinyurl.com/y8fyht2)

fix it :)

[tiger]

1st and 2sd pics are due to player models. Will be fixed by b1.05.

[atomx]

CSP 1.05 will be released before 19/02/10

*In this thread, I make up bullshit release date even if I know nothing of what's going on*
I said it because on the ESL website i saw it:

CSPromod 5on5 Opening Cup Beta 1.05
Arbre de tournoi:

MatchID 17292025
Date du match Vendredi, 19/02/10 21:00
Calculer 19/02/10 21:00

[DeLuXe]

Yeh cspm is nice i just started playin it, but i got some suggestions you can add "fps_max" to options and fix bots because something is really going on with bots. I hope u'll keep that in mind. Thanks

Best Regards

DeLuXe*
ParaDiSe Gaming

[alba]

CSP 1.05 will be released before 19/02/10

*In this thread, I make up bullshit release date even if I know nothing of what's going on*
I said it because on the ESL website i saw it:

CSPromod 5on5 Opening Cup Beta 1.05
Arbre de tournoi:

MatchID 17292025
Date du match Vendredi, 19/02/10 21:00
Calculer 19/02/10 21:00

That's a typo, LOL. There is no date for 1.05.

[Krotki91]

"alba" You know when you may be 1.05?

[Mith]

There is no date for 1.05.

Srlsy are you blind?

[alba]

There is no date for 1.05.

Srlsy are you blind?

What are you talking about? There is no date for 1.05 yet. That thing on esl is a typo and should say "Beta 1.04" not "Beta 1.05". You seem to be the blind one, sir.

[Mith]

There is no date for 1.05.

Srlsy are you blind?

What are you talking about? There is no date for 1.05 yet. That thing on esl is a typo and should say "Beta 1.04" not "Beta 1.05". You seem to be the blind one, sir.

I was responding to the guy above me (which ended up in the other page).

Right below your post saying "there is no date for 1.05", he asked "'alba' do you know when 1.05 comes out" or something like that.

[alba]

Fair enough :P

[Vanish]

I really don't understand why evryone is trying to start rumors about the release date of 1.05.

I am looking forward like a little kid to the release. and i think it will be a huge step for interlational leagues and cups ect.

If the developers dont get the time they want to fix gliches and so on. And develop new awesome stuff the the mod. It wont be a mutch better update than 1.04. So PLEASE!! So stop whining about " RELEASE RELEASE NOWNOWNOW"

Take you time and make an awesome game (:

// Vanish

[zeonite]

very nice work, but the death is not the best :(

[Mazzer]

yeh its not the finished version.

[Rampage]

when 1.05 version realese?

[amogan]

when 1.05 version realese?

We have released 1.05 prior to 1.04 but took it offline again once 1.04 was released. Only a few lucky ones were able to get it.

[Rampage]

If I correctly have understood version 1.05 is already ready, but now it test. All is true?

[Mith]

If it's being tested then it means it's not ready.

It's only ready when it has already been tested and passed.

[Rampage]

in this video used new model from csp 1.05

[Massey]

I love the animation. I don't mind the absence of moving shoulders, it's fine as it is really. The duck animation is the best one imo.
The walking seems a bit weird though, there's something wrong with it, but dunno what. :) It's not as smooth as the others. The motion is too rigid? If that's the correct word to use.

Good luck with your ProMod guys, coming from an avid 1.6 fan. :)

[Mazzer]

all the anims in the vid look a bit different now for one reason or another, with most changes to the walk. they were created with the idea of keeping the upper body fairly static. Every one has differing opinions of what is correct/incorrect looks nice/not nice, perfect or not. imo at the end of the day there is only a certain amount of time i can spend on each anim getting it to look true to some kind of initial concept within my capabilities. also i beleive whilst i try to make every anim i make the best that i can, there also must be a cut off in terms of something being functional and spending an infinite amount of time trying to make it look 'better'.

When im playing games, looking at them from the viewpoint as an animator, most of the time if something works well im not too worried if something doesnt look like i might think it could or should look(unless its really awful :)) Don't get me wrong, thats not to say i dont really enjoy great anims in a game or that i dont beleive great anims can make a good game better, cause thats awesome. But im just not sure that alot of the time ppl care too much if they just 'work' in certain types of computer games. (eg. cs ladder climbs, maybe there is no focus on a multiplayer character (3rd person character model)climbing a ladder due to its effects on the first person control/gameplay. But in a 3rd person action game it might look strange for your character to just slide up a ladder as it does in CS, and the game might have gameplay mechanics built around climbing/haning swinging movement etc that is a whole other area than just looking at your character climbing in a beleiveable way up a ladder. Now cs isnt the only fps to ignore ladder climbing and i dont think most players really care about it, they just wanna get up the ladder asap and get on fragging.) I always remember some ppl complaining when cs went through a change in its animation back in the earlier beta days, but at the time actually looking back at the previous version after the change it was clear to see how much worse the previous ones were and that perhaps ppl had just been used to the way they were despite any faults. I think the anims look fine in game though and im sure most people who see things they dont like from the videos so far will not notice them or just forget about them when they play and get used to 1.05. I hope so anyway :) in terms of smoothness some of that might be due to the loop on the video (tho i doubt thats all of it), in some places it was not a smooth transition on some body parts, but that is just where i copy and pasted it and didnt check every looping section as we were trying to get the vids out the door for 1.04 release time.

blaaaaaah that wasnt meant to be very long but i just got carried away, thats my take on it anyway.

[n69ky]

and again lost 10 minutes work time! csp 1.05 will be released 2 month later as planned, just because of this text!

im not saying there is a planned/known release date

[Lordearon]

I'm sure you're doing a great job, I love what I'm seeing and can't wait to see it all in-game.. those animations of yours will be featured in a lot of frag movies and you'll see the flashy close-ups of your headshot animation, that's going to feel good!

[blackaddR]

definitely should have this once the Terrorists have successfully blown up a bomb site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQdrmNTZ5Y

;)

[SirK]

definitely should have this once the Terrorists have successfully blown up a bomb site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQdrmNTZ5Y

;)


+1 xD
love it xD

[downbad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGOftPKJP_A&NR=1

[imperator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU-5H0YX4_4&playnext_from=TL&videos=ya0ZMZCS940

--- Update ---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epsanc8fzZM

[expunge]

that video was very animated

[para]

Hey dudes,

I just wanted to ask you, if u are going to change the size of the models.
In 1.6 the models are way smaller in relation to the map than they are in CSS.

Would be glad, if somebody answers :)

ty, para

[tiger]

Yes the new models have the same size as the 1.6 ones.

[yuri]

I just wanted to ask you, if u are going to change the size of the models.

Of course they are gonna be smaller. So the model:map ratio will be in 1.6 style :)

//beaten! that was damn fast xD

[n69ky]

In 1.05 10charactersdontinteresstme

[Charly-Psycho]

Does anybody know that the real bots include in 1.05 beta?
because that wehre very nice and cool

Sorry for my bad english im german^^

PS: GOOD WORK CSPteam THE new Models LOOKS VERY NICE ;)

[Rampage]

Does anybody know that the real bots include in 1.05 beta?
because that wehre very nice and cool

Sorry for my bad english im german^^

PS: GOOD WORK CSPteam THE new Models LOOKS VERY NICE ;)

I think to play whith real gamers much better then play whith bots.)

[Tweker]

That's kinda irrelevant Rampage...

No I don't think that the bot's will be better than 1.04, since they that ain't an important feature for the game as a whole.(Hope that is what you asked :P)

[n69ky]

Does anybody know that the real bots include in 1.05 beta?
because that wehre very nice and cool

Sorry for my bad english im german^^

PS: GOOD WORK CSPteam THE new Models LOOKS VERY NICE ;)


3 things:

1. your english isn't that bad after all.
2. the leet you see in the media section got a overhaul. (generalüberholung)
3. the bots which you have in csp beta 1.04 are only in for testing, so I don't think there will be any AI implemented.

[Charly-Psycho]

Thanks guys for the fast answer
Nice community^_^

[Charly-Psycho]

just one more question,does anybody know that in 1.05 beta reales
weher all guns avriable ?

Ps: cspromod is my new favourite game well done:-)

[n69ky]

no, there are not all weapons (from cs1.6/css) implemented in csp beta 1.05.

all the guns from csp beta 1.04 + one new which is not revealed yet.

[Charly-Psycho]

Ok thanks for answer^^

[sevoii]

I spank my monkey to this video every day.

[zwacki]

There are always good reasons to spank that monkey!

[Mazzer]

devlog with anims in game vid coming soon..

[esk]

:O
how soon is soon??

[sIMson]

no, there are not all weapons (from cs1.6/css) implemented in csp beta 1.05.

all the guns from csp beta 1.04 + one new which is not revealed yet.

Vote 4 either scout or m3, these are the first ones that shall be done ^^ scout seems the most possible :)

[likfik]

:O
how soon is soon??

i think, soon it few days
but it cspromod devteam , it mean
soon - at least few months

[Mith]

:O
how soon is soon??

The CSP team has an agreement with Valve to handle all announcements using Valve Time (http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time).

Thus, as you can see in the article, Coming Soon = Coming in over two months.

[esk]

haha ;p

[Mazzer]

lol, well the devlog is going to mainly consist of a video and once it's been captured in game it will take redstar a few days most likely to sort out the editing etc, at the latest we'll record the footage on the weekend i think. Originally i was going to devlog some processes involved in making the anims, but i think it would be far better to just show a video which is more relevant and of greater interest. Afterall i would only have written about anim stuff if there was a lack of things to show, seeing as we are doing a video, i see no point in padding out the forum.

[n69ky]

i'd love to seea short video how mkuch work is needed for this from animation till its ingame ready

[Mazzer]

that would only be possible if i kept some kind of video diary or had videos of the various stages, and i dont :) and there would be many, too many. i might do a 2 part devlog, with the video then some blurb.

[sIMson]

yay I'd like to see an intense deagle fight with a headshot in the final :) or sumthin like this ^^ will we see both models in action?

[MCkubbe]

This

http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/29/F7/4170caec432129f7.png

!

[likfik]

wanna see headshot animation with ragdoll physics O_O

[blackaddR]

looks like we'll be waiting a while for this.....

[Mazzer]

unfortunately there were some problems with the recording and redstar is away on holiday now for a bit so this IS GOING TO BE DELAYED :) hopefully now when we can record it again, it will also be at a more complete stage, as work is on going to improve the implementing of the anims in game. btw the problems were only with smoothing the recorded demo, not game problems :)

[blackaddR]

unfortunately there were some problems with the recording and redstar is away on holiday now for a bit so this IS GOING TO BE DELAYED :) hopefully now when we can record it again, it will also be at a more complete stage, as work is on going to improve the implementing of the anims in game. btw the problems were only with smoothing the recorded demo, not game problems :)

Well that's good to know. What about maybe some in-game shots in the mean time? ^_^ pwetty pweeeeeease? with a cherry on top? :P